2016-05-27, 16:41 | Link #21 |
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It's understandable that discussion of any new anime announcement will turn back to the studio that makes it, but -- as everyone knows by now -- don't bring the thread off-topic. Flamebait and off-topic tangents will be purged.
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2016-05-27, 19:11 | Link #22 |
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I only hope that it's a step above all the other books entered into their contest and if so, that kyoani does not take its' liberties with the storytelling and plot. I won't be holding my breath yet even if kyoani animation is simply the best.
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2016-05-28, 09:17 | Link #26 |
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I'm still baffled people still care that much about some trackrecord where the said series doesn't really have anything to do with the past duds.
KA isn't the only studio that goofed with their adaptations (or did brilliant adaptations, YMMV), and I honestly think it is about time to care more about the staff, the genre, and the original content. Hell even that kind of expectations can be betrayed to no end (Shirobako staff screwing around with Mayoiga for one). If past series were really a sureway to determine the quality of future series, I think people would have expected some success for Tamako Market, or failure for Hyouka and so forth, depending where you put your reference point. For now, the series PV did its job properly in my case, so I'm rather looking forwards to the first 3 episodes first.
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2016-05-28, 09:35 | Link #27 |
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This thing about KyoAni is really hilarious.
Some people give shows involving staff members of a certain notoriety a chance and yet they become apprehensive the moment KyoAni's name shows up to animate a project.
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2016-05-28, 09:42 | Link #28 | |
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The fact that Violet Evergarden is the only novel to win a grand prize award (the rest of the adapted LNs being mere "honorable mentions") is definitely curious. It could either mean that KyoAni has finally found a truly great story to deserve a prize of that magnitude, or it could just mean that the grand prize was given to the least smelly turd in a pile of turds. I hope it's the former situation. |
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2016-05-28, 10:39 | Link #30 | |
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Furthermore, publishers have -nothing- to do with the writing quality of said LN. Or what, are you telling me that Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon and Baccano are on the same level as Ladies VS Butlers just because they are all published by ASCII Media Works under the Dengeki Bunko label? So really, expecting a dud because VE is a LN published under the same label as PW, Chuunibyou, and so forth is just beyond narrow minded. I could remotely understand if it was the same author, but it isn't. Hell, all of them have very different storytelling and genre to begin with, so correlating the quality of a future adaptation with old adaptations that do not share genre, authors or even anime staff is beyond me.
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2016-05-28, 11:08 | Link #31 | |
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Moving to the main subject of this discussion, why Evergarden has all the chances to be another Kyoani failure as most of the adaptations of their own LN's? (no spoilers obviously) Evergarden is a episodic LN where each chapter is a flashback, each chapter take place on a different timeline in the life of Violet Evergarden except for the last chapter. The LN has the same dark details and scenes that Phantom World used to have in the source and I'm pretty sure Kyoani is going to get rid of all of that because they're going to focus on the SoL aspect, same as they did with Phantom World. Now I know someone can use the "don't judge using previous works!" card but this is a LN from Kyoani and most of their own material got the worst adaptations ever seen by Kyoani to the point that can be considered huge failures like Tamako market or Phantom World. That said, Kyoani do not deserve a single frop of faith, not even when they praise certain story based on certain award. Remember Hibike, all the people praising it and now look at how it ended being a yuri fest. |
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Besides I'm not doing any extreme like throwing the show under bus since as far I know this could blow my mind, it's certainly got my attention enough to give a chance. But it's not first time I've been situation before with this studio so I'm merely tempering my excitement based on variety of factors, biggest being on my personal history with them. |
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2016-05-28, 12:01 | Link #33 |
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Just see it.....well it sure is pretty, I could swore that is for movie instead of tv series...
to the point I sometimes wishing, if only some other show that I know have that level of quality...or maybe even hentai....which always have below average quality...
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2016-05-28, 17:20 | Link #35 |
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I don't mind some changes this time. The novel is focused mostly on episodic protagonists. Violet herself only gets focus in the last chapter or so. That should be changed to some extent. Violet is the overall protagonist and her story should develop slowly since the beginning.
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2016-05-28, 18:44 | Link #36 | |
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2016-05-28, 19:22 | Link #39 | |
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Just to be a bit more helpful, there are countless summaries of the first volume on japanese and Raws can be obtained too (is a bir hard tho). @Nachtwandler It is a bad thing in this case, the story is literally going nowhere until the end of the first volume so anyone who watch a butchered or changed adaptation would never get the idea behind. Just look at Phantom World which was at some point of the first volume "episodic". |
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2016-05-28, 22:24 | Link #40 | |
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