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View Poll Results: Schwarzesmarken - Episode 9 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 5 | 33.33% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 3 | 20.00% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 2 | 13.33% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 3 | 20.00% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 6.67% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 6.67% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2016-03-07, 12:29 | Link #21 | |
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I find Katia to be one of the most uninteresting characters of the show. The fact that she appears like one of the most privileged characters whom everyone wants to protect because she's the daughter of some war hero makes words carry less weight than say, if they came from others like say, Iris, who despite sharing the same views, inspires some well-earned respect. Come to think of it, Katia didn't really do much besides just being there did she... And of course, such character had to be a moeblob too, go figure It's interesting to think how opposite Lise & Iris are - the two very important women in Theodor's life right now. One prioritizes the country(or more like the people of the country) over her family, the other doesn't give a damn about the country or anything else besides her sole remaining family member. I kinda wish we got to see the two have a casual chat earlier and a fiery confrontation later :P Last edited by MgMaster; 2016-03-07 at 12:45. |
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2016-03-07, 14:00 | Link #22 | |
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Now regarding to kakurin-san post, what you get wrong is the motivations of Lise to do that so I suggest you to read my previous post where I quote you and if you keep the doubts about it, read the chinese translations. |
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2016-03-07, 14:17 | Link #23 | ||
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Indeed the two are opposites. One was able to forsake familial bonds to go for something more important. The other had theirs exploited and clung to it as their sole remnant of sanity amidst despair. The thing that always bugs me is whether Axmann had the ability to follow through on his threat of killing Theodor. If so, it adds more weight to the fact that Theodor is still alive, able to aid Irisdina and Katia while Lise was made to pay for it.
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2016-03-07, 15:13 | Link #24 |
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You know i really liked Pham and i should have known better than to like anyone in the Muv-luv universe cause they are going to end up dead in a horrible way But i liked her even in the hellish conditions they were forced to see everyday and all the racist crap she had to endure she was still herself even after being tortured she stayed strong, she tried to stop siblings from fighting and look what happens. So yeah im pretty pissed although i saw it coming and she wont be the last.
Theo wont let this go so we should just say goodbye to Lise right now. In the end if Axmann lives there is just no justice after he has destroyed so many lives. If anyone has any info on him from the LN could you please let me know his fate at the end
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2016-03-07, 16:24 | Link #26 |
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You are still misinterpreting my post. I've never said that it was her motivation. I said she was made to think that what she did was to help her brother in some way. Because frankly it's the only way that she could stay halfway alive and sane for so long going through that - by thinking she's doing that so she can see her brother again at some point.
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Oh yeah.....definitely....100% with you on both of those points. I took another look at Episode 9 overnight and....I noticed something....'different'. Something big that I wonder how I didn't notice the first time.... I can't say any more here because that would break thread/forum rules. If anyone wants to discuss this via PM, please do. Because something has been bugging me ever since I noticed this and I now have a theory as to what it means. Again, reply to this only via PM, not here.
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2016-03-08, 05:57 | Link #29 | |
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You can send me also by PM on this information Axmann?
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2016-03-08, 06:14 | Link #30 | |
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For anyone else that wants to discuss this, please let me know to what degree you want to discuss things. For the record, I intend to discuss the events relevant to one incident in Episode 9 and assume you don't want me to reveal anything else if you don't specify.
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2016-03-08, 15:44 | Link #31 |
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So, we now have the third coup in maybe a week? Instable doesn't come close to describe the situation right now.
Just earlier this episode I thought that Pham was to nice to survive this show. Looks like I was right with that one You and I may hate Axman as much as we want but nobody can deny he has guts, facing up at that big fat gun, controlled by someone he tortured. And he also is pretty hard-working, having tortured what seems like about 30% of all characters. I agree with what's been said above, Lise is the character that will be remembered. @Last Sinner I am always interested in disussing something interesting, spoil whatever you want if you think it is relevant to your point. |
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2016-03-08, 19:02 | Link #33 | |
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There are several places already calling Axmann a lock-in for Bastard of the Year. The guy you just love to hate without inhibition and makes you feel even more for the characters he has put through hell.
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2016-03-08, 20:22 | Link #34 | |
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As for Axmann, the adaptation did a good job showing his true personality and impact in the story. He's not only a bastard, Axmann is the one who carry the dark side of this story along with Beatrix while Theo, Lise or even Iris can just be considered no more than twisted characters trying to be edgy. |
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2016-03-08, 21:06 | Link #35 | ||
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Pham's death, while tragic and shocking, didn't have the impact it should have for people seeing the material for the first time because any out-of-battle parts that showed Pham's moments with the others never made it to the anime. Side characters aren't going to get much of a showing in the anime - a consequence of giving the core characters + events enough time. I don't think Irisdina's importance is lost on people and that she is the leader that makes things work. But in terms of explaining the history between certain characters, then I certainly agree that there will be things lost in the conversion. I kind of see it like the way Watanabe adapted Rumbling Hearts/Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien. He understood that certain details might be list by how much he cut, particularly of the pre ep2 ending material. But he understood that it was the post ep2 material that people watching the anime as their first experience of that title would be most invested in. That is the hook. Certainly some of Uchida's trademarks (particularly the comedic elements) probably fit in with the original version, but I doubt they would have been appropriate in the anime version. It's the tradeoff of doing an adaptation when your episode count isn't flexible. Quote:
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2016-03-09, 04:16 | Link #37 |
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Nooo No not Pham-neechan, why'd they have to axe her, man.....(sorry, forgive the poorly placed pun )
I know this series, I should have been prepared when they didn't let me meet Inghild back in episode 1, but to kill of Pham-neechan... I really liked her hair accessories, and she surely was oneesan like.... I shall miss you, girl wearing a tanktop on a snowy winter day.... Between this and Gundam Orphans, I think I've seen one too many deaths this season. I think I'll go watch some of the lighter stuff this season, get my mind off this |
2016-03-09, 08:06 | Link #38 | |
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2016-03-09, 08:24 | Link #39 | |
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And I've been through Muv Luv Total Eclipse, man that first episode made me swallow my gut and I still can't bring myself to watch the bluray versions I tell you one thing though, I honestly feel like there's no saving Lise. She needs a warriors death, if anything. I guess that's one reason to keep me watching; to see what her fate will be. Such a terrible thing that happened to her.... |
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2016-03-09, 09:20 | Link #40 | |
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