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2006-08-18, 19:51 | Link #26 |
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Zeta Gundam has lots of good points and lots of bad points. I think that it’s an important show for just about any gundam fan to watch, and it’s fairly entertaining, so I think that you’ll enjoy it. I’ll just touch on the major points:
Upsides Excellent Characters. Quattro, Haman, and eventually Camille have lots of interesting points. My favorite is Amuro, even though he has relatively little screen-time. Mecha Action. Zeta has some of the better mobile suits, and some of the best choreography of the early Gundam shows. Even though its artwork is older, I think that the style holds up fairly well against the newer shows. Interesting Ideas. Zeta is concerned with further exploring the themes first brought up in MSG. The way they play out is often quite intriguing. Downsides Writing. Zeta mostly has tolerable writing, but on occasion, it’s absolutely abysmal. The only Gundam TV show that has worse writing is ZZ. Unauthentic Depiction of War. Like many Gundam shows, it just doesn’t feel like there’s a war going on. It doesn’t help that the creators keep trying to tell us that “this is what war is like” when it seems as if they’re the ones who don’t know what it’s like.
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2006-08-19, 21:00 | Link #28 |
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a great plot. intresting and original mecha designs. alot of great characters great battles that don't have plotdevices. pretty much everything except... downs sayla gets little screen time. belt can get annoying. too dark for some.
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2006-08-20, 04:00 | Link #29 |
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You want dark, watch V Gundam. Z isn't as bad as V is - at this point Tomino hadn't got his "Gundam bitterness" yet. I think he was just still battling through his depression when he made Z - that's why we have so many characters dying.
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2006-08-20, 21:46 | Link #33 |
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I still thought the Titans could use a bit more victories and more characters.
Also, I wished that Yazan should die in the end of Zeta instead of being alive in ZZ. The Jerid-Kamille fights are usually good.
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2006-08-21, 01:07 | Link #34 |
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Zeta was a great realistic war drama...Not to mention it had some of the most bold and creative mecha designs in the entire genre...You weren't suppose to get attached to characters because it let you know early on, like in life people you adore die in war, and they die pretty easily, and after they die it's on to the next battle because that's war...It's a fucked up existence.
I'd bet my eternal afterlife life that everyone dissing it is a Kira crunch-bar eating CE fanclone unfortunatley. |
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2006-08-21, 02:59 | Link #39 | |
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Zeta's merely average to me.
It's purely my opinion, but Zeta to me is the type of series that you keep in your cupboard permanently after watching it all once. There's no watch recycling value. The plot alone was okay, but the way it was paced with it's slightly episodic system on certain parts of the anime and the beggining and middle's choppy execution made it meh. None of the characters really appealed to me and I couldn't give a damn when most of them died. The drawing factor that makes a character interesting and makes you want to see more of them but then poof, they died seemed almost non-existent. The only character I cared about was Jerrid, Scirocco and Emma. The rest...pfft. Kamille was a decent character, but his hypocritical talk in battle pisses me off. The romance was wtf. Anyone who thought Zeta had more than 1 or 2 decently written romance sub-plot needs to get their head checked. Even so, it's merely decent. Zeta is okay, but there's no power behind most emotional scenes and no electric behind the characters and no awesomeness behind the super scenes (( Aside from the last episode of NT Ghost Powah, but SRW @3 potrays it a million times better than the TV series )). X, G, 0079, SEED, GSD, Turn A, V (( to some extent )), ZZ were all more entertaining than Zeta. Quote:
I'd rather watch GSD for eternity rather than watching Zeta. At least I can get giggles, laughter and superb comedy value out of GSD, if not a tear or a burst of emotion. I'd get nothing from Zeta, other than the last episode where I laughed at Kamille's l33t powers. |
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2006-08-21, 03:31 | Link #40 |
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Well I actually meant to say flashbacks not recaps (LOL that GSD is more memorable to you for it's production error based flashbacks and not the actual content of the series on the whole)...Trust GSD entertained me on some level, but to compare it with Zeta you'd never hear me make such a mistake...ZETA was epic, yet non glorifying at the same time...The emotions of Char's inner-conflict, Amuro's disillusionment, and Cammille's ascention was done well for the most part...not every answer was spoonfed to you as the omnious nature of the series is one of it's high points...It's attention to detail during it's mobile suit engages and unapologetic nature towards the ills and brutality of war was groundbreaking...It wasn't about pink haro's and angel baths or superfanboy based lube fapping moments...It was about terror, and gloom, and what's the worth of fighting? The functionality and non-funtionality of those (like the ARGAMA's crew) who take on the challenge to fight against the odds...And in that dismal existence a boy became a man and stepped up to be a hero of this crushing world and for all his efforts instead of getting a VESTGE j-pop insert-song he got his mind-raped proving that even in winning there is still defeat (The harshest of realities)..It's really not for the cartoon minded IMO...It looks at the low-point and evils of man and that even in that blood-dried soil a flower can bloom...There is a reason it is still the highest rated and most hyped GUNDAM series...there is a reason for that... I wouldn't expect everyone to understand especially those who perfer cliche dramatic elements with bishie flawless heroes and agendas (Not saying that's all you guys care for), but for those looking for a raw taste of war, struggle, and realism with in the context of a morbid existence Zeta is the flagship...
Now you can still like both and adjust your mindset accordingly for each series, but in a comparison I can't see it...Maybe SEED would be more acceptable as it pretty much re-hashes MSG, but GSD shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence IMO, especially when it ripped Zeta dry and still fell apart at the seams...I mean how is that even possible? |
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