2012-07-20, 18:58 | Link #23 |
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He is truly delusional. All insane people are delusional, but there are plenty of sane criminals who are delusional, too. I think this guy is sane. He was on his way to a Ph.D. He was sane, delusional, and evil.
I know that the studies of criminal psychology are important and not to be ignored. I understand that we can break things down and find reasons and motives as to why this guy did what he did, no matter how unjustified those motives are. But I don't want him to go to some asylum. It is a mockery of people who truly do have mental illnesses. This guy is very smart person with a college degree going for a Ph.D. He knew what he was doing and he knew what he was doing was wrong. He needs to pay for what he has done. He isn't like Jared Lee Loughner (the criminal of the Gabriel Giffords incident). Now that guy seems mentally ill. Obviously James Holmes isn't right in the head. But I don't think he should go to an asylum. We'll see what the experts decide, but right now, it seems like he needs to be prosecuted as a typical criminal and not go to an asylum.
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2012-07-20, 19:05 | Link #25 |
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Harvard Injury Control Research Center: Homicide
http://ht.ly/cofr3 A link to the actuals reserchs would had been a good idea; to see the actual numbers usualy help credibility.
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2012-07-20, 19:09 | Link #26 |
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[QUOTE=Tammuz;4264563]He had, apparently, also had his house and vehicle rigged with explosives, a little gift for investigating officers. I'm kind of disappointed that they found out- it would have made this a hell of a lot more interesting.
FYI, Holmes told them. Also, interesting? If you're saying what I think you're saying, then I'd say you deserve to be the one who gets to make the "interesting" discovery, in person. Yea, I call BS. Mall-ninja tactic-cool gear is pretty obvious to anyone who knows their stuff. |
2012-07-20, 19:09 | Link #27 |
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Oh, but of course. Who could possibly look upon this tragedy and feel anything other than contempt for this obviously defective human being?
We humans are, after all, far above this. So, yeah, ya'll continue on attributing it to mental illness (despite his being on his way to a Ph.D- which does not by any means exclude mental illness, in the sense of personality disorders, but pretty much throws any arguments of insanity out the door- I would know, I'm a Psychology Student :3), or to the violence depicted in Western comics. Or let the police find a Manga or Anime DVD at his house and point the blame to our little niche of the entertainment woods. Or let the media have their way with portraying this as some religious or political statement. Hurry up and point those fingers people. Now, I'm going to go mourn for those poor people and shout curses at this defective human, so far set apart from the rest of us |
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I've calmed down some over this incident now. I'm still angry about what he did, though, and he deserves all the suffering he gets as a result of his actions. Karma, you reap what you sow, all that jazz.
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2012-07-20, 19:12 | Link #29 | |
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I'd rather take a far-removed, authorial perspective of the events, thank you though. Then, the officers must not have known their stuff, because the News reported that an Officer told them this. Then again, it was, well, the news. |
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2012-07-20, 19:13 | Link #30 | |
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depends on how one define civilized.
lynch mob and vigilante justice however is certainly not part of one. Quote:
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2012-07-20, 19:17 | Link #32 | ||
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2012-07-20, 19:32 | Link #33 | |
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But sometimes with some people, it is just nice to spout some angry words. I mean, how can you not be upset with this guy and what he did? Let's break it down some - we don't know the half of it about how badly some people are suffering due to his evil crimes. We don't know anywhere near the half of it. Some people lost their lives, some more are likely to die from their injuries, many are injured, and then many family members and friends of the deceased and injured victims and traumatized victims, and those (living) victims themselves will continue to suffer very much in the near future and then many of them will suffer very much beyond that and even years from now. Then on top of that, millions of people not directly affected by this are still being negatively affected by this. So who can blame people for saying angry words about this guy or saying terrible things about this guy? People want him to pay. People want justice. Compassion and forgiveness, which extend from love - these things are so important. Love and compassion are the greatest things of all. But in this world we live in, there is a need for justice for horrible crimes. So yeah, bring this guy to trial, sentence him, and - he'll probably get the death penalty - so, let him face the death penalty.
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2012-07-20, 19:39 | Link #34 | |
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2012-07-20, 19:43 | Link #35 | |
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I do believe than sane or insane he PRACTICED for that mugshot, think about it, he killed a few people, but with that mugshot he can make MILLIONS feel miserable. |
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2012-07-20, 19:44 | Link #36 | |
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But it's not up to me, and ultimately he deserves to have his day in court just like everyone else, and have his fate be determined there. |
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2012-07-20, 19:48 | Link #37 |
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This is just great.
Guy commits "atrocity", and people all rush to deem him mad- first and foremost, that would be their goal. They'd want to separate themselves from him. But that isn't enough, you need something to blame it off on. Human nature is too good for this- even a madman would have better sense about him, so he must have been influenced by external factors. Naturally, the Batman series, and comic books in general- upon their shoulder's shall the blame of the people fall. Which is, in itself, ironically comical, as I'd wager that the vast majority of the movie goers at the time were quite avid fans of the series- I mean, for Christsake, would YOU go to a midnight special screening for something you didn't like? But what is best- what is BEST about this is how the people on the internet, behind their shrouds of anonymity, people raise high their pitchforks and torches for the man. And do you wanna know what they want? The exact same damn thing that he wanted. Blood. Hilarious! Really, just hilarious XD Please, continue. I'm about to go take a nap, as I've had a rather long day. I expect to see more of you people rallying around, thirsty for blood, upon my return. Until then, take care everyone ^^ |
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kyp275 makes a good point and that that is probably not his mugshot. News agencies report he dyed his hair red and it was red when he was arrested but his hair isn't red in that picture.
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Then things like this wouldn't happen. No, they don't want blood. They want justice. I'm not sure why this distinction isn't clear to you.
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2012-07-20, 19:56 | Link #40 | |
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Like I said above, IMO people like Holmes who brazenly takes the life of innocents forfeit the right to their own life. I certainly have no qualms about my view, internet or not. If I was at that theater, I would've put that dog down myself. |
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