Fate/stay night Episode 22 Discussion thread

[Katapan]

Originally Posted by Rymir

Spoiler:

I'm assuming you're talking about her becoming the grail correct?

LOL, who would have thought this expression would ever come into play:

Spoiler:

npal's custom title: Behold the Loli Grail!

Quite a fun spoiler to say the least

[Demongod86]

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

Yes, that was Caladbolg.

I thought only Tidus had that weapon >.<

[Deathkillz]

are you sure archer's arrow/bow is called caladbolg?? from wiki its simbolised as a sword...

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

are you sure archer's arrow/bow is called caladbolg?? from wiki its simbolised as a sword...

I believe someone who has played the game would know the truth, compared to wiki'.

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by Angelsama

I believe someone who has played the game would know the truth, compared to wiki'.

how would you know wht the arrow/bow is called even if youve played the game?? can you read japanese or is that word in english?

[MakubeX2]

Regarding Caladbolg.

The one Archer is using is a "refined" version of the original that he imagined and traced out. Such is how he managed to use it a an arrow.

Gil's used the original. And if you know the history behind the weapon, this explains why Lancer has to be killed by it.

PS :- God, they made out Gil to be even more of a arrongant idiot in the anime, why is it that they had him pulling out Air when Saber activate Avalon when he had knew the power of Avalon from before in the preview for Ep. 23.

[monster]

Originally Posted by Village Idiot

Yes, that was Caladbolg.

I just realized all this time Shirou's able to acquire more weapons to be imaged everytime Gilgamesh uses his Gate of Babylon. That is, if Gilgamesh doesn't just take out the same weapons everytime.

[Takemi_Ikazuchi]

Originally Posted by MakubeX2

PS :- God, they made out Gil to be even more of a arrongant idiot in the anime, why is it that they had him pulling out Air when Saber activate Avalon when he had knew the power of Avalon from before in the preview for Ep. 23.

Ah, but we don't know that yet, do we? There has been some rather... interesting changes in the past episodes...

[Village Idiot]

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

are you sure archer's arrow/bow is called caladbolg?? from wiki its simbolised as a sword...

Archer's bow is just a normal bow made out of a type of material that doesn't exist yet.

[Alu]

hmmm.. I couldn't resist reading the spoilers.., but all & all it realy promisses to be another great episode.., much like the previous one was.

It pleases me to see Fate-Stay once again giving us episodes worthy of on how good the story & characters behind the title realy are; it seems that now until the end, things can only become better.

Or so I hope..

I was surprised to read though, on behalf of Demongod86's part.. that..

Spoiler for Lancer:

That he died with Gil's Gate of Babylon in this episode, which on its own I belive it is already a change from the 'Fate' scenario

Also regarding Ilya in the next episode preview..

Spoiler:

So I take it that this is the part where Kotomine kidnaps her and we learn what she realy is ?
I surely hope that this does not lead to a Heavens Feel or UBW scenario in which she dies.., despite under other circunstances.

I was surprised though no one mencioned though any aspects regarding the picture of Saber beneath the tree we saw in last's episode's preview.., I had great doubts on what realy happened there.

Never the less.., Shirou's possibility to make a UBW...
Does it still exist even after seeing this episode ? Or can we put an end to this speculation ?, as in.. clearly the story will not end much diferently from the Fate scenario.

[Shiroth]

Originally Posted by Alu

Also regarding Ilya in the next episode preview..

Spoiler:

So I take it that this is the part where Kotomine kidnaps her and we learn what she realy is ?
I surely hope that this does not lead to a Heavens Feel or UBW scenario in which she dies.., despite under other circunstances.

Spoiler:

I have a feeling that they wouldn't wanna show Illya being killed in the anime.. for many reasons.

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by Angelsama

Spoiler:

I have a feeling that they wouldn't wanna show Illya being killed in the anime.. for many reasons.

Spoiler:

yh she is too cute to die and the younger viewers will be in a state of shock

[Demongod86]

Yet they must call forth...

THE LOLI GRAIL!

[MakubeX2]

Basset reference ? They got the place wrong though, but with all the anime original setup in this episode.....

[Rich]

i'm very dissapointed at Lancer, can't believe he got defeated so easily..... -________-||||. and plus he didn't have enough screen time in the anime. Can't believe Gil can basically beat all the servants, why can't every one have an equal power servants.......? like gil beating all the other servants is somewhat disturbing in how he can beat them so easily..... -________-|||

[Darkside]

Originally Posted by Demongod86

Looks like Lancer got *Gate of BabylOWNED*

Haha clever xD. It's sad that we all knew Lancer had it coming to him too haha.

[Decagon]

Need more Tohsaka

Anyone want to start a betting pool on how Gil dies?

[Mgz]

Spoiler:

the death of Lancer is CRAP

he doesn't even use his NP :/

seems no UBW after all T_T

[Thelastguardian]

After I watch episode 22, I feel the urge to rant.

1. They shorten Shirou's monologue! How could they! That part is (imho) the best part of the Fate route. For me, that part touched my emotion the most. Furthermore, it explains why Shirou acts like a dumbass throughout the series. Yet they shorten this part to the point where I went "wtf happened 10 years ago?!".

At least they didn't skimp on Saber's speech.

2. Lancer got the same treatment as Archer. As with Archer, we donn't know how Lancer die fighting in the game. The characters just escape while Archer/Lancer tries to stall the enemy.

I sort of hope that they would follow the game though

Spoiler for really minor difference:

Gilgamesh and Lancer leap at the same time to attack Saber/Shirou, yet Lancer suddenly change direction and attack Gilgamesh. When Gilgamesh asked him what is he doing, Lancer answered "Sorry sorry my hands slipped". ^_^

Lancer is a nice guy (as you should know from UBW).

[gammaoh]

Originally Posted by Alu

Never the less.., Shirou's possibility to make a UBW...
Does it still exist even after seeing this episode ? Or can we put an end to this speculation ?, as in.. clearly the story will not end much diferently from the Fate scenario.

Hmm, I have to admit the chances are immensely decreasing.