2022-05-07, 17:27 | Link #21 |
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I picked it up today and I'm already up to chapter 74, it's just really hard to stop. Will probably be caught up tomorrow. I enjoyed reading your thoughts, frubam.
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Can't wait to find what happens next!
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2022-05-07, 17:55 | Link #22 |
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Another joins in on the fun huh. Welcome aboard! Haha
This one is certainly a roller coaster because just when you think you've figured something/someone out, another spanner gets thrown into the works and completely changes your interpretation of events. All I know for certain right now is that everyone, with the exception of Yuko are either victims of each other or circumstance or both and all are seemingly heading towards ruin at this rate. Will we get a happy ending of anyone involved? Idek anymore. What I do know is that Yuko is the common denominator here in mostly everyone's suffering and for them to even have a small chance at happiness, she needs to be dealt with.
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2022-05-08, 11:03 | Link #23 | |
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2022-05-08, 14:04 | Link #24 |
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^Agreed. So far, Nagi is the only one who we know next to nothing about. Some light has been shed on everyone else to some extent, but new developments usually alter reader's established perception of them, so that's not as reliable as I'd want it to be.
I'd say Reiji is the character I have the largest grasp on and that's mainly because he's the protagonist and therefore has the most exposure of all the characters in the story. Of everyone, I think Chako is the least damaged and is the most hopeful to be saved in the end. As for Reiji, Gen, Nagi, Yuko, Shibasawa and Esemori... I starting to think that none of them are going to end this story on a positive note (well Esemori is already done for anyway).
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2022-05-08, 18:18 | Link #25 | |
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Nagi could go either way. I think she has a pretty good chance of making it, but only if Reiji does get his shit together and tries to understand her.
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Oh, welcome to the fam Kanon =03.
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Definitely believe she started that war on purpose now. That look when she asked Akira "what did Uryu say to you?", I knew that, even at this time, she has probably been the instigator of all these events. I'm not sure what's to come. NTR DOES seem likely, like that would really push Akira over the edge, but that might also discount him from having the chance to be Reiji's father. He still a)has to become Reiji's father(unless, well, he ISN'T Reiji's father), b)date Shino'oka(stated this to Chako where he threw up on her, unless, well, Shino'oka WASN'T the girl he dated that looked like Chako), and c)get the idea to escape the town forever. Last thing I recall, he wanted to die and take Yuko with him, but decided not to because of Yuko, so he'll need a catalyst to remove that ideal. Can't wait to see how this upcoming revelation will change the narrative (^,^ )!
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2022-05-15, 18:22 | Link #28 | |
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2022-05-17, 12:41 | Link #29 | |
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Haha I can't imagine Nozoe having hate sex with Yuko . Man doesn't have an aggressive bone in his body. I think it'd be more of "I couldn't forget about you" and Yuko manipulating his emotions, coming on to him, making herself look pitiful, etc.. I also don't recall him coming back temp. He left, and didn't come back until his mother passed to visit her grave, right? Then he saw Reiji.
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2022-05-18, 10:27 | Link #30 | |
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Chapter 41 for Yuko smiling and chapter 57 for Nozoe saying he hates her. Both flashbacks are from the scene if you compare.
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2022-05-18, 16:07 | Link #31 | |
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2022-05-21, 06:02 | Link #35 |
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Can't argue with that logic: makes a lot of sense, but... I just don't see the Yuko twist in all of this. After everything she's done, it's hard to see her purely as a victim, or victim of circumstance. If things do happen as you say, I expect there to be some other purpose at work; like trying to get pregnant to enact her plan. Although I could also see the author trying to humanize Yuko given how vile her adult version is.
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2022-05-28, 05:49 | Link #37 |
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Man, sure is hard waiting chapter to chapter instead of reading a big chunk of chapters =0v.
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On some random note, I was rereading the beginning chapters again(just cause) and it is interesting how info from later chapters makes certain things far more clear to me. Like, you can see Reiji REALLY hates his mother(if the declaration during stabbing incident wasn't obv enough, but to see the foreshadowing is nice), and how he realizes that everything he's experiencing is all her fault(bro, grandma, Gen, etc) and how she is a lying sack of s***. During his monologue, he uses the word "They", but its clear hes talking about his mother. Gen feels more tragic since I know his backstory, you can see most of his behaviors make sense. Also, Reiji states that Nozoe must be 46 y/o, since Yuko stated he was a classmate of the same grade/school. If Reiji is 16~17, I'm not seeing how Nozoe is the father, esp since he proclaimed from the time he declared he wanted to marry Yuko, to seeing Reiji for the first time was 32 years apart and he supposedly left for Tokyo and never returned until 1 year before the beginning of the story. Either I misunderstand the timeline, or there's still a crapton of story to tell, even though it always feels like the end is looming just around the corner at this point.
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2022-05-28, 07:06 | Link #38 |
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Unless she's delusional, Yuko has already confirmed that Nozoe is Reiji's father. We also can't dismiss that other characters have noted the similarities between them, despite the fact Yuko tried to raise Reiji to be the opposite of him: someone who would never abandon his family and leave the town.
Nozoe has never been able to get over Yuko, it's possible that he came back 17 years ago thinking that he could "fix" her, only to realize she was even more far gone than he thought. He's laying out the whole story this time (from his POV), so we'll get the answer soon enough. I certainly agree waiting is painful though. A lot of people are seeing Yuko as an innocent victim now. Personally, I'll only buy it once we get her side of the story. Only thing I know for sure is that she did love Nozoe, and probably still does but would rather not admit it.
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2022-05-28, 20:35 | Link #39 |
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Points taken =03. If he's really laying out the whole story, its gonna be a LONG time before the end of it. I do want to know what happened to Chako too =0<. He said he stayed there for 6 years since he was in the 7th grade, 13 y/o, so he at least graduated from there then left. Then there'd be a whole story about when he came back, which would be another long arc, so I can't say the answer will come "soon enough", but it'll come eventually .
When you say "people" you mean in-story? Or other readers(obvs outside of here )? Anyway, I can't trust Yuko either. It would have been more intriguing if the author didn't show her unmasked face, and instead kept the reader guessing if she was manipulative or not like her adult self, but given her unmasked faces, its easy to believe that she's orchestrated some of the current(in the flashback) events in some way.
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