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View Poll Results: Fate/ Zero - Episode 17 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 34 | 34.34% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 31 | 31.31% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 23 | 23.23% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 6 | 6.06% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 3.03% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 1.01% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 1.01% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2012-04-28, 15:20 | Link #23 |
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Question. I'm confused about what exactly made Kirei suddenly change his mind about leaving, in that scene where he was packing his things. It seemed like after he got that phone call about the Einzberns he was all "Ok I'm staying," but I didn't really get that. Who called him? Had he been scouting for their location on his own? Why? I just didn't understand how that call relates to his decision to stay, which the scene kind of implied.
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2012-04-28, 15:25 | Link #24 |
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^I figured that he had given up on the war, but once he found out where the Einzberns were, aka where Kiritsugu could be found, the thing he had been searching for was too close in his grasp to pass up on and the temptation became too strong.
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2012-04-28, 15:27 | Link #25 | |
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Basically, is not logical to someone who was supposed to be retreating to do that kind of stuff. That's why Gilgamesh laughted, as he knew Kotomine true intentions. Last edited by sento; 2012-04-28 at 15:41. |
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2012-04-28, 16:08 | Link #27 | |
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Anyways, the Azzoth Dagger was always used as a plot device for drama. Sometimes through karmic death while at other times through different means (like in HF). |
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2012-04-28, 16:47 | Link #28 | |
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Loved this one. This episode hit nearly all of the bases that I wanted it to hit, so I enjoyed it more than a lot of the novel readers. The only thing that I felt was amiss was the lack of Kotomine crying, as he did in the novel, when he came across his father’s corpse. Other than that, I kind of felt that they were attempting to appeal to lolicons in episode 10, so I was worried about that possibility in this episode. I didn’t get that vibe from 17, at all, so much rejoicing was to be had.
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It also seemed to be a common consensus that, due to time constraints, they were just going to exposit the scene in which Kirei arrived upon his father’s corpse and obtained his command seals, so I was impressed with how clever they were in adding it in and extremely happy about it, all the same.
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2012-04-28, 17:10 | Link #29 | |
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2012-04-28, 18:19 | Link #32 |
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I feel kind of bad for Kirei despite the cold betrayal he gave. He wanted to be good, but it wasn't his nature.
I did laugh when Kirei felt he had the need to mention he never bought a ticket in the first place. Definitely the biggest detail Tokiomi would be most interested in his last seconds.
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2012-04-28, 18:36 | Link #33 |
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Definitely a step down from last week's intense spectacular, but still fascinating. As an anime-only handicapper, I make this a very bad week for Kiritsugu. He's lost another safe, predictable and easy to manipulate opponent, and he's left with the two Masters and two Servants he'd probably most hate to face.
As for Rider and Waver, love those guys but they've had "side character" flags from the beginning so I don't see them as a major factor. Wouldn't be surprised if they're the next to go out.
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2012-04-28, 19:22 | Link #36 |
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Man, Kirei is such a douche, he killed the man who treated the dude not only as a student but also as part of his family. Now he's Gilgamesh's master and he was the grail to answer questions to his own baseless insanity.
I truly felt sorry for Tokiomi, but it shows that Rin will soon be following in the family legacy shortly.
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