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It has been hinted that Obito intended to double cross Madara since a little more than 70 chapters but if you think this made a difference in the discussion about his worth as a villain you really don't understand the reason people have a problem with Tobito. |
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2013-07-03, 12:38 | Link #25 |
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Nice to see Naruto actually out thought his dad and Sasuke, when it came to Obito's objective. It was a refreshing change.
Probably talking about Sasuke as Minato doesn't yet know the troubles he's caused for the village and Naruto.
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2013-07-03, 12:55 | Link #26 |
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It's funny. For a mangaka who admits to being clueless about romance, and refuses to even have any of his 16 year old characters involved in any relationships even though that should be natural, makes the butthurt feelings of a kid who fell in love with an unattainable girl at 13, the emphasis for him becoming final villain.
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2013-07-03, 13:41 | Link #28 |
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i din't expect him to double cross Madara,the authority of the big villain has shifted from madara to obito, and naruto said that's what he always wanted, so this was obito's plan all along, so he was using Madara.
i thought the obito was finally over, but now he looks like the real big villian
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2013-07-03, 13:48 | Link #29 | |
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2013-07-03, 14:25 | Link #30 | |
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I'm not sure but I think the "traitor" is referring to Itachi. Basically he is insulting sasuke by telling him that he is brothers/related (fellow) of the traitor who backstabbed the Uchiha (namely itachi). But then again Obito took part in that plan as well. But then again AGAIN! perhaps obito viewed Itachi's decision as a purely pro-konoha/anti-uchiha one, but his own decision to help Itachi was not rooted in pro-konoha ideals, so in sense obito was not "betraying" the uchiha ... he was only using them for a longer term goal. I hate reading translations. Someone who understands Japanese needs to provide some insights into who the "fellow of the traitor" is that Obito is referring to. Also, has anyone noticed that Madara's favourite face lately is ; He has made it multiple times since the start of the fight many chapters ago, and again this chapter when he said "well, that was a failure, oh well" (when obito was killed) Last edited by Cookie-Monster; 2013-07-03 at 15:19. |
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2013-07-03, 15:17 | Link #31 |
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I don't mind Obito's sudden revival (as a threat). Doesn't do much for him as a villain, but it's always nice when a bad guy has some bite to go along with their whiny bark. I hope he wins this little battle and is able to cast his wish upon the world. Can't wait to see how it goes wrong...
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2013-07-03, 15:53 | Link #33 |
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meh....
last week, I really hope Obito isn't died in simple way such as being Rinne Tensei's sacrifice but today, I want him dead in Minato's hand for him to become Juubi's jinchuuriki..... I think Madara is more deserved |
2013-07-03, 16:21 | Link #34 | |
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I must admit that i hoped we will finally see Madara as the new Rikudo so i never expected this outcome, and also i was hoping that Obito and his broken story might now be paused for a longer time (obviously his story has to end, so i didn't expect him to just die and never come back, i actually exptected that he will be revived together with the whole alliance army at the end of the war when someone does a mass resurrection).
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What i liked in this chapter that my previous complaint about Obito being completely unprepared for the case of Madara using him was addressed here. The master manipulator behind the akatsuki in the end lived up to his previous role and was prepared to fool even Madara. Plot hole cleared by Kishi Now i hope that what i described months earlier might become reality: Obito using a partial eternal tsukiyomi to make the alliance members fight each other. The possible combinations are many: Naruto vs Sasuke, hokages vs team7, Madara vs hokages, Also now there's a chance that all those sharingan eyes might be used for something interesting. |
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2013-07-03, 16:44 | Link #35 |
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^I'd say it's a 100% guarantee those eyes will come into play now. in a convoluted way it also kinda answers why he didn't want to use izanagi vs kakashi and waste one, if the more he has, the more powerful technique he can cast while being the juubi jinchuuriki. him and kakashi should have never even fought like that in the first place. that whole scene makes no sense, but now it's over and obito can actually be kind of cool again for a little while
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2013-07-03, 17:37 | Link #36 | |
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a) Kakashi is uniquely equipped to deal with obito (ie, Obito's god-like strength comes from his ability to manipulate time-space so well. When Kakashi enters that space with him (forcing obito to fight in other ways), then obito is not that strong. (and we know kakashi is particularly skilled when it comes to all-round quick-thinking type fighting) b) Perhaps deep down obito didn't really have the resolve to kill Kakashi. His unwillingness to kill his old friend may have made him purposely pull his punches and fight sloppy. |
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2013-07-03, 18:04 | Link #37 | |
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in option b it was obito who started the fight in the first place. if he didnt want to fight kakashi then he should have just ignored him and did his own thing. |
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2013-07-03, 18:09 | Link #38 | |
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I did double-check the chapter for signs of that, but i couldn't notice any. There should be at least a minor hint about that happening, otherwise what would be the point of showing us how crappy Obito performed there. If there was a hint we could argue if Obito deliberately missed Kakashi's vital organs with his black rod. Or maybe i missed something in that chapter... |
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2013-07-03, 18:11 | Link #39 |
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Its funny because as obvious as this is, some people were adamantly stating that Obito is "not" that similar to Naruto when some people accurately called Obito the "Naruto" of his generation. I mean the author practically went out of his way to spell it out for us by his attitude, team setup, and even appearance. The way he's been paying attention to Naruto during the whole fight, watching his reaction to his philosophical crap is also a big hint.
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2013-07-03, 18:19 | Link #40 |
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I agree, he couldve done far more than he did, but somehow I think most of the problem was about who was going to kill the "leader of Akatsuki", rather than how he was killed. If Naruto did what Kakashi just did with a rasengan, I doubt we'd get the same amount of complaints.
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