2008-03-19, 11:20 | Link #21 |
makes no files now
Join Date: May 2006
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Having it work on each platform isn't necessarily a requirement, since it's not like they wouldn't be able to play the file at all... they just wouldn't get the same candy as Windows users would. However the approach you are suggesting is definitely interesting, although not everyone could be bothered with the creation of the chapters. Anyway, I quite like this idea, and might actually try and give it a shot next time (so far the OP/ED linking I've been using seems have been received fairly well by the leechers -- although you never know how many curse in quiet) the opportunity comes around the corner for me.
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2008-03-19, 12:24 | Link #22 |
You could say.....
Join Date: Apr 2007
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Can I suggest something?
As an end user I actually like them. I just ask that groups stay away from using green and red. 5% of the world's population is red/green colourblind (like myself) so green text dissappears into red backgrounds and vice versa. I tend to remux where possible stuff I d/l but hardsubbed it's a bit difficult. As a side note Blue yellow and purple are the rarest forms.
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2008-03-19, 13:21 | Link #23 | |
Florsheim Monster
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: UK
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So that karaoke softsubs could be switched off without switching off the subbed translation itself. In a sense, so that it becomes an optional extra. As I say, though, this is probably a pipedream. |
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2008-03-19, 21:19 | Link #25 | |
Florsheim Monster
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: UK
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As far as I know though, fancy karaoke can't really be done softsubbed (this is foreign territory to me, so shoot me down if I'm wrong) and that's what I was thinking of when I said "softsubbed karaoke". I know that multisub is an option (one that's very unused, in fact), but it would only really allow basic styling and .ass tsing (afaik). |
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2008-03-19, 21:42 | Link #26 |
The Supreme Pontiff
Join Date: Dec 2005
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you can easily make a pretty nice softsubbed karaoke if you know what you are doing. also the tsing can pretty much be as advanced as you want it to be. in the entire time i've tsed i've only had to get a sign hardsubbed once
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2008-03-20, 01:05 | Link #27 |
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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OP/ED Karoke as softsubs would be cool. If softsub kara can eliminate badly done AE karaoke (Nodame Special ), i'm all for it!
I think all groups should at least provide softsubbed karaoke for all insert songs, because flashy hardsubbed karaoke within the episode/dialogue is really distracting. Does anyone know what processor power would one need to play back a simple {\k..} karaoke anyway? |
2008-03-20, 03:26 | Link #29 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Detroit, MI
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Chalk one more up in the neutral column. It's very rare that I actually watch the op/ed segments anyways. I think Aria is the only show that I've actually watched every opening because they're all different and related to that particular episode.
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2008-03-20, 05:40 | Link #31 | |
Junior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Tbh, i'm a fan of simple \k karaoke. If the font choice is good and the colours as well, there's nothing to complain about (and if it's softsubbed, you could even adjust those to your liking). So i have to agree with Daiz, softsubbed karaoke would be great. Some people assume that nice karaoke means quality, some could care less (like me). Softsubbed \k style karaoke would be easy to make, faster (you don't need to encode it) and has all the advantages of softsub. Karaokestyler could still show of their skills with PVs |
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2008-03-20, 05:55 | Link #32 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: In the middle of nowhere
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I don't have a problem with karaoke-effects unless:
1. The lyrics are wrong, which often happens during the first few episodes an opening or ending is used, before the official lyrics become available. Dattebayo is particularly bad at this, where I've actually experienced that I've made a better guess at the lyrics than they did, and I hardly know anything at all about japanese grammar. 2. They're too flashy, like in the second opening in One Piece, where there was a scene where the subtitles literarily flew all across the entire screen, spinning around. They were completely unreadable, which completely defeats the purpose of having them there in the first place. So yeah, I don't mind karaoke when it's done right, but I'd be just as happy without them. It's not like the lack of a karaoke-track has ever made me think "I am not going to buy this DVD because it lacks fancy karaoke-subtitles!!!!" or anything. |
2008-03-20, 06:41 | Link #33 |
Aegisub dev
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
Age: 40
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For the soft-\k topic, playback of plain \k or \kf should not take any additional CPU over what it takes to render a fully static line every frame. VSFilter uses a trick inside the rasteriser to switch over between different colours inside a scanline, it simply calculates "at pixel 342 switch to a different colour for fill" which is pretty much no slowdown at all. (If anyone have read Rasterizer.cpp that's what the 'switchpts' array does.)
Another trick that allows a bit more fancy soft karaoke is actually to split it into several smaller lines that each have a very simple effect. More effects clumped together on one line tends to slow things down a lot.
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2008-03-20, 12:12 | Link #36 | |
Zentradi Archivist
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: #anime-classic@zirc
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We don't do karaoke. We don't do 80,000 colours and sizes and positions when it comes to dialogue. We have lives and jobs and better uses of our time. Which reminds me, I need to check my rice... |
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2008-03-20, 13:51 | Link #37 |
Ana-chan~
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Netherlands
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I love and hate making karaoke, but it's a good training for a non-creative person as me learn to be creative, learn how to go from an idea to realisation, and this may sound weird, but how to 'organize' that idea in steps (my head is chaotic, there's no start.. there's no end.. frankly, creating a karaoke/painting/whatever doesnt work the same way).
Also, i've never really liked going for the minimalistic approach, it's like studying just enough to get a 6/10. If you do something.. do it good or don't do it at all. |
2008-03-20, 15:02 | Link #38 |
Pioneer in Fansub 2.0
Join Date: Aug 2007
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I'd suggest doing something actually creative if you want to learn how to be creative... Styling karaoke isn't exactly what I'd call "creative work".
Also, in my opinion, you are free to do as styled karaoke as you want, as long as it can be turned off. There's already an explanation on how this can be achieved with hardsubbed karaoke in this thread.
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