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Haak · 2009-08-20, 15:01

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Originally Posted by Rukia_Blue

Hey seeing Hitsu isn't that bad

Yes it is. Yes it so fucking is.

It was brilliant the way Aizen and Gin completely made Hitsu look like a fool. I was duped into thinking that Kubo had created a Gary Stu that would solve everything, but Kubo almost totally deconstructed it brilliantly. Almost.

Just one problem. He let Hitsu live. Killing off Hitsu would've spoken volumnes. The messgae would've hit like a sledge-hammer. The only reason Hitsu lived was because in the end he caved to popular demand and ended up losing to the very thing he tried to beat. It's pathetic.

Waking_Dreamer · 2009-08-20, 17:16

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Originally Posted by Cub-Sama

The manga was written by Kubo he should let Oh Great! write it and he can just illustrate it, actually Oh Great! is better at illustrations.

Hell yea, Kubo doesnt even compare to Oh Great in drawing skills, now way can he ever best him!

Gin · 2009-08-20, 19:20

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Originally Posted by Haak

Yes it is. Yes it so fucking is.

It was brilliant the way Aizen and Gin completely made Hitsu look like a fool. I was duped into thinking that Kubo had created a Gary Stu that would solve everything, but Kubo almost totally deconstructed it brilliantly. Almost.

Just one problem. He let Hitsu live. Killing off Hitsu would've spoken volumnes. The messgae would've hit like a sledge-hammer. The only reason Hitsu lived was because in the end he caved to popular demand and ended up losing to the very thing he tried to beat. It's pathetic.

I completely agree.

Vorhamus · 2009-08-20, 19:22

Good guys should die too.

'Evil' is always defeated, defeated and defeated again and again... I know this is shonen, but hell, in all shonen I've read before at least ONE unimportant good guy dies.

roriconfan · 2009-08-21, 03:01

^ So far, the most important one who died is Kaien.

Kafriel · 2009-08-21, 03:22

Another part that went wrong in bleach, although it's from the anime, is the poor music selection for the KT arc...it used to be much better, I was watching some old episodes and was like "where did all of this go?".

kamyu · 2009-08-21, 03:45

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Originally Posted by roriconfan

^ So far, the most important one who died is Kaien.

and even that was just a flashback death.
even in the safest stories, the past is usually filled with death. if you want to live, live in the present i guess.

Cub-Sama · 2009-08-21, 03:52

The good guys are never in any real danger, thats why Hitsugaya, half dead Ichigo and Renji went up against Aizen. They knew even if they die someone WILL heal them.

roriconfan · 2009-08-21, 04:04

Flashback deaths are a half baked excuse to show that death does exist for the good guys. Too bad it only means death "existed" since in the present it is only the baddies who kick the bucket. In One Piece, not even the baddies die. In Dragonball Z death has no meaning as you can train even dead and return to life easily. Naruto is somewhat the best in this issue as it does kill several characters. Well, not as many as it should and not any more. Neji, Chouji, Gaara survived without a reason and that mass ressurection ruined everything for me. Now all shounen are shit in my eyes for this simple reason. Although I still prefer One Piece for other reasons.

Ah, Hokuto no ken. If someone died there, he stayed dead. And most did actually. That was a series!

nczhivago · 2009-08-23, 03:13

think the biggest problem he has is really introducing some sort of twist with a particular secondary character and then just leave them sitting there for a while

Pretty_Shota155 · 2009-08-23, 15:17

I was fan of this anime/manga but only one picture it ruined it all, the ressurection of Ichigo.(Well, there was some other things too but after this i couldn't read the manga or see the anime)

Can't it be a little bit realistic at least in death?

RadiantBeam · 2009-08-23, 20:21

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Originally Posted by Haak

Yes it is. Yes it so fucking is.

It was brilliant the way Aizen and Gin completely made Hitsu look like a fool. I was duped into thinking that Kubo had created a Gary Stu that would solve everything, but Kubo almost totally deconstructed it brilliantly. Almost.

Just one problem. He let Hitsu live. Killing off Hitsu would've spoken volumnes. The messgae would've hit like a sledge-hammer. The only reason Hitsu lived was because in the end he caved to popular demand and ended up losing to the very thing he tried to beat. It's pathetic.

I agree with this statement completely.

Gin · 2009-08-23, 20:25

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Originally Posted by Gin

I completely agree.

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Originally Posted by RadiantBeam

I agree with this statement completely.

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RadiantBeam · 2009-08-23, 20:40

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Originally Posted by Gin

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Sorry.

Crusader · 2009-08-23, 22:20

The problem with bleach now, is that there are way too many characters that contribute very little to the story, and most people hardly care about those characters on top of that. Now the villians have a some wins, but in the end they are all slaughtered with the "Heroes" Barely taking any loss. Some minor damage they will heal from and thats about it. That gets boring after a while.

In this tough economy, Kubo should probably do some cost cutting starting with the characters who are taking up space and the ones who do very little. Terminate over half the cast and there are still too many people. Give several SS people thier pink slip and move on. He could probably stand to give some of the main cast a pink slip. lol kidding or am I?

kamyu · 2009-08-24, 01:11

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Originally Posted by Pretty_Shota155

I was fan of this anime/manga but only one picture it ruined it all, the ressurection of Ichigo.(Well, there was some other things too but after this i couldn't read the manga or see the anime)

Can't it be a little bit realistic at least in death?

which one? lol
he was completely dead at least twice now and left for dead (but not quite) even more.

Kafriel · 2009-08-24, 03:05

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Give several SS people thier pink slip and move on. He could probably stand to give some of the main cast a pink slip. lol kidding or am I?

SS got 13 squads, that's 26 main members -2 (Chojiro,Rukia) +3 (Ikkaku/Yumichika/Hanatarou) so 28 members only from the SS side. Add vizards, Urahara shop and Nel's trio, and you got a wooping 40+ side characters compared to the measly 5 main characters of Ichigo+school friends. SS should be hit by a meteor or something!
Well,maybe not a meteor, but Yumichika could have died using a bankai the wrong way and blasting himself along with the enemy, Rangiku could just die, she got rly hurt there, Momo could have gone insane and MIA, Omaeda could have perished at the hands of Ggio Vega,etc,etc...

roriconfan · 2009-08-24, 03:12

I see all of us agree that we don't like the shonen casts to be treated as MMORPG characters: They respawn and have no personalities.

King Lycan · 2009-08-24, 05:07

Everything..
The Lengths of the battles..
Good Guys Never Die..
And What makes Hollow's so Evil there only eating for survival

roriconfan · 2009-08-24, 05:20

Let's add to that the fact that the SS leadership is rotten to the bone, yet the only thing everyone is trying to solve is killing all those who oppose it. I mean, the Bounto were adused and tried to fight back. What did the captains do? They killed them and didn't even pay attention to the fact that it were their leaders who are at fault. So was it with everyone else who opposed the status quo.

Well, excuse me for saying that the captains are fashists and tyrants, maintaining an unjust order.

2009-08-21, 03:52	Link #388
Cub-Sama Member of DOLLARS Artist Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: In the magical land of Moonswell pass Age: 28	The good guys are never in any real danger, thats why Hitsugaya, half dead Ichigo and Renji went up against Aizen. They knew even if they die someone WILL heal them. __________________ We are DOLLARS, credit for sig goes to CMHerrera-chan

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Crusader Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: North Texas	The problem with bleach now, is that there are way too many characters that contribute very little to the story, and most people hardly care about those characters on top of that. Now the villians have a some wins, but in the end they are all slaughtered with the "Heroes" Barely taking any loss. Some minor damage they will heal from and thats about it. That gets boring after a while. In this tough economy, Kubo should probably do some cost cutting starting with the characters who are taking up space and the ones who do very little. Terminate over half the cast and there are still too many people. Give several SS people thier pink slip and move on. He could probably stand to give some of the main cast a pink slip. lol kidding or am I? __________________ The times may change, but human nature never will.

2009-08-24, 05:07	Link #399
King Lycan User Title eaten by ravenous bunnies IT Support Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Zeon Age: 33	Everything.. The Lengths of the battles.. Good Guys Never Die.. And What makes Hollow's so Evil there only eating for survival __________________ Tumblr

2009-08-20, 19:22	Link #384
Vorhamus I N C O N C I E V A B L E Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Behind you	Good guys should die too. 'Evil' is always defeated, defeated and defeated again and again... I know this is shonen, but hell, in all shonen I've read before at least ONE unimportant good guy dies.

2009-08-21, 03:01	Link #385
roriconfan Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thessaloniki - Greece	^ So far, the most important one who died is Kaien.

2009-08-21, 03:22	Link #386
Kafriel Senior Guest Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Athens (GMT+2) Age: 35	Another part that went wrong in bleach, although it's from the anime, is the poor music selection for the KT arc...it used to be much better, I was watching some old episodes and was like "where did all of this go?".

2009-08-21, 04:04	Link #389
roriconfan Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thessaloniki - Greece	Flashback deaths are a half baked excuse to show that death does exist for the good guys. Too bad it only means death "existed" since in the present it is only the baddies who kick the bucket. In One Piece, not even the baddies die. In Dragonball Z death has no meaning as you can train even dead and return to life easily. Naruto is somewhat the best in this issue as it does kill several characters. Well, not as many as it should and not any more. Neji, Chouji, Gaara survived without a reason and that mass ressurection ruined everything for me. Now all shounen are shit in my eyes for this simple reason. Although I still prefer One Piece for other reasons. Ah, Hokuto no ken. If someone died there, he stayed dead. And most did actually. That was a series!

2009-08-23, 03:13	Link #390
nczhivago Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009	think the biggest problem he has is really introducing some sort of twist with a particular secondary character and then just leave them sitting there for a while

2009-08-23, 15:17	Link #391
Pretty_Shota155 Just a Pretty Shota... Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Thessaloniki-Greece Age: 30	I was fan of this anime/manga but only one picture it ruined it all, the ressurection of Ichigo.(Well, there was some other things too but after this i couldn't read the manga or see the anime) Can't it be a little bit realistic at least in death?

2009-08-24, 03:12	Link #398
roriconfan Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thessaloniki - Greece	I see all of us agree that we don't like the shonen casts to be treated as MMORPG characters: They respawn and have no personalities.

2009-08-24, 05:20	Link #400
roriconfan Banned Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Thessaloniki - Greece	Let's add to that the fact that the SS leadership is rotten to the bone, yet the only thing everyone is trying to solve is killing all those who oppose it. I mean, the Bounto were adused and tried to fight back. What did the captains do? They killed them and didn't even pay attention to the fact that it were their leaders who are at fault. So was it with everyone else who opposed the status quo. Well, excuse me for saying that the captains are fashists and tyrants, maintaining an unjust order.