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2009-09-23, 22:11 | Link #4062 | |
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2009-09-23, 22:37 | Link #4063 | |
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The fact that there are teachers that would show this to children who don't fully grasp politics and economics just frightens, sickens, and angers me! If a teacher were to ever try to brainwash my child with this propaganda, I would punch them harder than Rockey punched Ivan Drago! The scary part is that it isn't just in the public system, It can be in ANY school system. This video should be banned! I will be calling my local schools to protest this Anti-American indoctrination. SHAME on Tides Foundation and to schools who willingly show this to children! |
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2009-09-23, 22:51 | Link #4064 | |
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There is no guarantee that electric vehicles will prove better than the current gasoline-powered vehicles when more of them come onto the road. Aside from the need to provide a reasonably priced and stable supply of electricity on top of the current demand, you need to ensure that the batteries (assuming that they are still used) keep its charge within tolerance and over a long period of time. That is, these batteries should not require more frequent charging - as they would lose their charge faster - as they get older. Also, electric vehicles' resale value is not tested. Existing hybrid vehicles' resale values are just estimates, and don't 100% match 1:1. Not everyone will or can afford to buy a new vehicle.
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2009-09-23, 23:28 | Link #4065 | |
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2009-09-24, 00:38 | Link #4068 | ||
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Actually, viewing the "critique" is good in that it shows just how poorly they present their opposition. There are a number of things actually a bit off-base or "in your face" about the "Stuff" video... but the youtube "critique" skips over that in favor of moonbattery and corporatist apologist distractions. I'd rather hear a cogent rebuttal from, say, CrossOverManiac any day.... Quote:
Anyone who works in landfill and waste management knows that the US (and China, etc) is in trouble with available space for garbage. Reduce, reuse, recycle -- is at the least just good manners, eh?
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2009-09-24, 01:26 | Link #4070 | |
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2009-09-24, 01:51 | Link #4071 | |
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Edit: Yes there are some problems with that video, showing it's not really all that well researched, but the core message, that we need to switch to a more sustainable production model is perfectly valid.
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2009-09-24, 03:56 | Link #4073 |
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The capitalism is a two-edged sword ... its brought prosperity but there's nothing about capitalism that should permit people to skip out on picking up after themselves.
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2009-09-24, 04:01 | Link #4074 | ||
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2009-09-24, 04:05 | Link #4075 | |
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2009-09-24, 04:30 | Link #4076 | ||
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2009-09-24, 05:32 | Link #4077 |
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One thing I do believe in is that, if there is no consumerism, we would all be lazy bums.
Consumerism breeds innovation. If you are selling the same product as another company, you can win the market over with better quality control, which benefits the consumer as they do not hurt themselves in using your product. The only thing that is wrong is with the consumer, one shouldn't spend more than what one has. The documentary should be reclassified as propaganda because it is so lopsided and biased. And for a place like US, it is phenomenal that it was actually aired in classrooms.
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2009-09-24, 06:02 | Link #4078 |
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I'm prepared to write a lot of that of as poorly researched scare tactics to get kids to actually think of the environment, since a lot of people don't seem to be getting the message. If there weren't so many people running around saying things like "oil will last forever" and "climate change isn't real!!" I'd probably be more critical of it. The only thing that really annoyed me with the video was the bit about computers. They don't change the sockets so you need to buy a whole new one instead of just swapping out the processor. They do it so you can't put a processor in an incompatable motherboard, frying both. It's not just the processor that changes, everything does, but even so there's a lot of backwards compatability they put in. I mean you can still get motherboards with pci slots. However, I can accept that it would appear that way to someone who doesn't know much about computers. Well the part about your pillow will eat your brain too, but not as much.
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2009-09-24, 09:43 | Link #4079 |
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Some suggested readings on "net neutrality":
Historical overview of the FCC's efforts to deal with the "convergence" of computer and communications technologies FCC's Internet Policy Statement FCC's ruling prohibiting Comcast's interference with peer-to-peer protocols List of FCC documents on broadband For those who see some kind of "socialist" Obama conspiracy here, I'll just observe that many of these decisions, including Comcast, were issued by Commissions with Republican majorities. The same FCC that got so incensed over the appearance of Janet Jackson's breast also gave us some remarkably prescient and pro-consumer rulings like Comcast. One part of Chairman Genachowski's remarks has gotten less attention but could fundamentally change the rules of the game in wireless communications. He suggests that the wireless carriers will be required to allow consumers to connect any device that complies with regulatory requirements to the cellular network. As Vexx notes, the Carterfone decision enabled end users to connect any technically-compliant equipment to the wired telephone network. This ruling enabled an explosion of useful devices like answering machines, faxes, modems, and the like. The wireless carriers have followed the same practice as AT&T did then by tying devices and service together. I'm glad to see the Commission intends to apply the same logic to wireless carriers today as we did to AT&T in 1968.
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