2012-07-08, 20:59 | Link #4102 | |
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Including plot devices that basically force the TSAB to send him on a mission that Nanoha is actually disqualified for: http://forums.animesuki.com/showthre...30#post4245330 |
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2012-07-16, 20:39 | Link #4106 | |
The Unpronounceable
Join Date: Apr 2012
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I Stand Alone, Blood That Flows along with Swords and Shields come to mind. In TvTropes WMG page, there's a mention of Yuuno not going out in the field because his spells can be too lethal sometime. |
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2012-07-16, 21:34 | Link #4108 | |
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Join Date: May 2006
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"Now you're thinking with Portals!" Cheers.
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2012-07-21, 10:15 | Link #4115 |
The Flame Crussader
Join Date: Aug 2009
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It's a mistery xD
Some people assume they are made of real material (me among them) others theorize they're entirely made of solidified magic. But both theories are equally unconfirmed by canon so i don't know really xDU
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2012-07-21, 10:41 | Link #4117 |
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Pretty sure that their physical forms is just solidified mana. Magic apparently is pretty good at mass manipulation (remember how Yuuno turned into a forty times lighter ferret version of himself). It is possible that some parts of the Device (such as Raising Heart's red jewel) are made of non-magical materials but all the rest is just solid mana. It can be further theorized that the standby forms are the bare hardware minimum that a Device can run on, while its remaining shapes it creates on the fly as needed.
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2012-07-21, 11:22 | Link #4118 |
The Flame Crussader
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Yet devices still need maintenance and can't alter mass at will as freely as you mention it. They just switch between stablished forms adapted trough engineery (unlike, say, Sakura's Magical Wand who adapt new unprecedented forms by the power of her growing will and magic).
Armed devices are even more evident in this aspect as those seem to be made of sturdier stuff than Intelligent ones (at least Generation 1 ones) and be more mechanical in nature, cartridges are probably made of real materials because they are solid shell roudns encased in boxes and more likely without a mana support before being filled it by Shamal/Shari/Mariel. As we lack any confirmation i also have another theory as i credit the Device form-switch to a function more similar (similar, not equal) to the capsules made by Capsule Corp. in Dragon Ball which are capable of encasing all sorts of big physical stuff inside hammerspace. Devices do have some mass-alteration trough macig, tough. As we've seen with Bardiche's Zamber mode, Raising Heart Excellion, the way Laevatein can alter the lenght of it's Schlagenform and Graf Eisen size-changing capabilities. Unless Signum and Vita are consumate liars when they say stuff like "tasting the steel of Laevatein" or "The iron count, Garf Eisen" i think it's pretty safe to assume their weapons are made of real metal. Which still makes sense in Laevatein's demise at the hands of Cypha as the latter's viralizing power is precizely to be able to weaken solid constructs, specially the ones made of metal xD
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2012-07-21, 11:42 | Link #4119 |
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Devices do have parts, though. RH and Bardiche required a whole system of parts to be installed, and Mach Calibur requested an upgrade that would have added much more mass to the device. Also remember that stuff can be stored in subspace (or elsewhere), like Verossa who summoned a cake. Mass manipulation is also very much a possibility; see Vita's huge hammer for a great example.
So, based on that, I go on the assumption that all those parts are stored inside the device, and just use magic to enlarge them. Or call out any extra needed parts from storage in subspace. |
2012-07-21, 11:50 | Link #4120 |
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Never mind how the same part can have wildly different forms--Raising Heart and Bardiche both had the exact same Cartridge System part installed, yet Raising Heart's takes the form of an automatic-type reloader, and Bardiche's takes the form of a revolver-type reloader.
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