(L) Date A Live [Light Novel]

[cloud04]

Originally Posted by kagato3

She is shown to be in Tohka's gym class in one of the issues of DAS the class soccer match pretty much devolved into a battle between Origami and Tohka going full out. She is pretty petite though her rival on the rogue group looks younger

oh that chapter..i do wonder if she will get more air time in the main series

[LeWLWuT]

Yes, Mikie and Tamae are cousins, considering they have the same surname.

Those facts, you took them from the spin-off right? Oh, wow. Sometimes, I don't really consider spin-off facts to be part of canon. I'm torn in the Rinne Utopia controversy.

In other stuff, one of my colleagues made a theory.

Spoiler for Da'at Angel:

So he said "If Shidou would be Da'at, would it be possible for Rinne to be his Angel?"
I said to him "Well, sure. She is his guardian angel, in a matter of speaking."
And then he said "No, I meant like the other Spirit's weapons or something."
Then I said "That can't be right. Da'at doesn't have any angel, let alone an AstralDress."

Lemme know your thoughts on this.

[iamadooddood]

Originally Posted by LeWLWuT

I already did, when I joined this forum. They underwent a really long rant about it.

Lol, show me their argument then.

Originally Posted by LeWLWuT

If that were the case, then Shidou would have met her already. Where did you get the idea?

Date AST Like Chinese translations.

Originally Posted by cloud04

oh that chapter..i do wonder if she will get more air time in the main series

Probably not. I'm thinking it'll more likely get a spinoff series, if Mikie gets more popular.

Originally Posted by LeWLWuT

Yes, Mikie and Tamae are cousins, considering they have the same surname.

Those facts, you took them from the spin-off right? Oh, wow. Sometimes, I don't really consider spin-off facts to be part of canon. I'm torn in the Rinne Utopia controversy.

In other stuff, one of my colleagues made a theory.

Spoiler for Da'at Angel:

So he said "If Shidou would be Da'at, would it be possible for Rinne to be his Angel?"
I said to him "Well, sure. She is his guardian angel, in a matter of speaking."
And then he said "No, I meant like the other Spirit's weapons or something."
Then I said "That can't be right. Da'at doesn't have any angel, let alone an AstralDress."

Lemme know your thoughts on this.

I'll agree with you on this. Except the guardian angel part -_-.

[cloud04]

lol date ast like is mikie's series

[LeWLWuT]

Originally Posted by iamadooddood

Lol, show me their argument then.

Lemme check on my paperwork then. I have it somewhere...

Originally Posted by iamadooddood

Date AST Like Chinese translations.

You're pretty lucky. I only scratched the surface, unlike some of you.

Originally Posted by iamadooddood

Probably not. I'm thinking it'll more likely get a spinoff series, if Mikie gets more popular.

Like in Railgun?

Originally Posted by iamadooddood

I'll agree with you on this. Except the guardian angel part -_-.

Why though? It's got a heavenly feel to it. Hah. Lame puns again.

To add a bit of info, Da'at is considered to be the base of the abyss. Ooooh, creepy. And in other books, Da'at is substituted with Keter, the first sephira. Anybody get what I'm thinking?

Originally Posted by cloud04

lol date ast like is mikie's series

Well, duh! But it's not just her. it's the AST's side of the story. Though it may not be relevant to the main plot, it can flesh out the opposing side. Sort of a character development thing. I'm thinking of a game's customized skins. It makes the game look cooler without having an overall effect to gameplay.

[iamadooddood]

Originally Posted by cloud04

lol date ast like is mikie's series

I mean anime adaptation spinoff.

Originally Posted by LeWLWuT

You're pretty lucky. I only scratched the surface, unlike some of you.

Well, I only got like the first 3 chapters of volume 1. Pretty much scratching the surface as well.

Originally Posted by LeWLWuT

Like in Railgun?

Yup.

Originally Posted by LeWLWuT

Why though? It's got a heavenly feel to it. Hah. Lame puns again.

To add a bit of info, Da'at is considered to be the base of the abyss. Ooooh, creepy. And in other books, Da'at is substituted with Keter, the first sephira. Anybody get what I'm thinking?

Gyaaah.

Yeah I know. It means he's supposed to end up with Origami. Bwuh?

Date A Origami makes a lot more sense now.

[LeWLWuT]

Originally Posted by iamadooddood

Well, I only got like the first 3 chapters of volume 1. Pretty much scratching the surface as well.

I got a bit of all 3 volumes of this. Wanna hear?

Originally Posted by iamadooddood

Yup.

Looks like we're on the same boat. I thought of it once, too.

Originally Posted by iamadooddood

Gyaaah.

Yeah I know. It means he's supposed to end up with Origami. Bwuh?

Date A Origami makes a lot more sense now.

That can't be good. I mean a harem with over 7 women competing usually has all of them winning, or none at all.

I can't find my colleagues' testaments to Rinne. All I can remember is the existence of the VN. Something from the Enlightenment era, like "If God doesn't exist, then why are we here?"
Get the picture?

Only a few days left before a flood of emotions, theories, comments, spoilers, and illustrations fill this humble thread. Just sayin'.

[iamadooddood]

Originally Posted by LeWLWuT

I got a bit of all 3 volumes of this. Wanna hear?

Yes please.

Originally Posted by LeWLWuT

That can't be good. I mean a harem with over 7 women competing usually has all of them winning, or none at all.

That only applies if it's a balanced harem like this one is. For a harem where there is very clearly a main girl (think Zero no Tsukaima or SAO), the main girl almost always wins. One law is that the more clearly a main girl is shown, the more likely she is to win in the end.

However DAL is sufficiently balanced enough to convince me that Tohka won't be the only winner. To me, she doesn't have that strong a "main girl" feel.

Not especially after I just realised that Origami might be the one to end up victorious, if there is a sole victor in the end. Then again, it's even more likely that they all get to share him, so at least there's that hope.

Originally Posted by LeWLWuT

I can't find my colleagues' testaments to Rinne. All I can remember is the existence of the VN. Something from the Enlightenment era, like "If God doesn't exist, then why are we here?"
Get the picture?

Not the religion card again. @_@

Simple. The VN was created to follow up on the anime. I'm not sure about our purpose of existing, but at least the VN has the purpose of milking extra money from LN and anime fans.

Originally Posted by LeWLWuT

Only a few days left before a flood of emotions, theories, comments, spoilers, and illustrations fill this humble thread. Just sayin'.

As if it wasn't like that already.

[LeWLWuT]

Originally Posted by iamadooddood

That only applies if it's a balanced harem like this one is. For a harem where there is very clearly a main girl (think Zero no Tsukaima or SAO), the main girl almost always wins. One law is that the more clearly a main girl is shown, the more likely she is to win in the end.

However DAL is sufficiently balanced enough to convince me that Tohka won't be the only winner. To me, she doesn't have that strong a "main girl" feel.

Not especially after I just realized that Origami might be the one to end up victorious, if there is a sole victor in the end. Then again, it's even more likely that they all get to share him, so at least there's that hope.

That, or none at all. I kind of view this things at the "double-or-nothing" zone. A gamble, since we got darker elements here.

Sure, there's the basic rule of pairings: First girl ALWAYS wins, provided she got more screen time than other girls. However, we got exceptions. I can't name one, but my colleagues say Index.

Originally Posted by iamadooddood

Not the religion card again. @_@

Simple. The VN was created to follow up on the anime. I'm not sure about our purpose of existing, but at least the VN has the purpose of milking extra money from LN and anime fans.

Seems you're starting to agitate the bees that are my colleagues. They just dropped by my house, and saw your testaments. I only managed to catch these bits:
"Oh, wow. Like how an artist just puts a rock in a pedestal and calls it art? Better a stock character than a unique one that's not even canon, you say?! She was conceived with the author's ideas! If she's not worth mentioning, then why did the author bother creating her?" Stuff like that. I tried calming them down by joining here, and they seem to oblige, though I highly doubt they'll appear here.

Me? I am like "Please stop. I know she may never appear again, but she'll always have a place in my cerebrum. I'm stoic."

Originally Posted by iamadooddood

As if it wasn't like that already.

Oh, really? I wouldn't be so sure...

Regarding Date a Strike, the info I only got was the Combat Realizers. Plot? I'm in the dark there. What was the motive of those three Brits for stealing the Ashcroft units?

[iamadooddood]

Originally Posted by LeWLWuT

That, or none at all. I kind of view this things at the "double-or-nothing" zone. A gamble, since we got darker elements here.

Sure, there's the basic rule of pairings: First girl ALWAYS wins, provided she got more screen time than other girls. However, we got exceptions. I can't name one, but my colleagues say Index.

Lol Index. I didn't think she got much screen time.

Originally Posted by LeWLWuT

Seems you're starting to agitate the bees that are my colleagues. They just dropped by my house, and saw your testaments. I only managed to catch these bits:
"Oh, wow. Like how an artist just puts a rock in a pedestal and calls it art? Better a stock character than a unique one that's not even canon, you say?! She was conceived with the author's ideas! If she's not worth mentioning, then why did the author bother creating her?" Stuff like that. I tried calming them down by joining here, and they seem to oblige, though I highly doubt they'll appear here.

Me? I am like "Please stop. I know she may never appear again, but she'll always have a place in my cerebrum. I'm stoic."

Actually, IIRC the author saw one of Tsunako's random characters and liked her design so he decided to use her as an original character for the game. Said character was Rinne. As to whether liking her design was the main reason, or even only reason, I'm a lot less sure.

And if you think about it, making a VN to follow up on an anime makes a lot of commercial sense, regardless of whether the VN is canon or not.

I'm actually hoping she reappears, because I do want a sequel to that VN.

Originally Posted by LeWLWuT

Oh, really? I wouldn't be so sure...

Regarding Date a Strike, the info I only got was the Combat Realizers. Plot? I'm in the dark there. What was the motive of those three Brits for stealing the Ashcroft units?

It was enough for Riki to complain about the deluge of speculations. Though I don't see any problem with it.

Lol you read that blog right. No idea, but I think it might have something to do with that Ashcroft Wizard.

[Ragna92]

Originally Posted by LeWLWuT

That, or none at all. I kind of view this things at the "double-or-nothing" zone. A gamble, since we got darker elements here.

Sure, there's the basic rule of pairings: First girl ALWAYS wins, provided she got more screen time than other girls. However, we got exceptions. I can't name one, but my colleagues say Index.

At first I was convinced it was going to be a Tohka ending but now I'm leaning more towards the no one gets picked ending now. There are already like 7 girls in the harem and I'm pretty sure the harem will only get bigger. At this point I find it hard to see Shido being in a romantic relationship with anyone. So far DAL seems to be a balanced harem just like iamdood said.

[RapidPotential]

The premise of the series already implied he'd had to have at least 10 girls going after him so I'm pretty sure it might actually have to end up a harem, otherwise the usual cop-out would probably happen (the open end).

A fatal mistake on the fans' part is to assume the first girl wins all the time; whilst it holds true for most of the romcom staples. The first girl may get a large amount of screentime in the early stages, but up until some point the author could decide a different focus and development time for a girl who supposedly showed up later. "First girl wins" scenarios generally happen if said girl is a title character, but even then there are exceptions to this rule.

[Ragna92]

Originally Posted by RapidPotential

The premise of the series already implied he'd had to have at least 10 girls going after him so I'm pretty sure it might actually have to end up a harem, otherwise the usual cop-out would probably happen (the open end).

A fatal mistake on the fans' part is to assume the first girl wins all the time; whilst it holds true for most of the romcom staples. The first girl may get a large amount of screentime in the early stages, but up until some point the author could decide a different focus and development time for a girl who supposedly showed up later. "First girl wins" scenarios generally happen if said girl is a title character, but even then there are exceptions to this rule.

I'd say the first girl wins 80% of the time. At the end of the day it's all up to the author. I've read a series where the MC ended up with a supporting character before.

[LeWLWuT]

Originally Posted by iamadooddood

Lol Index. I didn't think she got much screen time.

I was her title series, but yeah, she didn't really get that much focus. At all. She was relevant in only the first few volumes.

Originally Posted by iamadooddood

Actually, IIRC the author saw one of Tsunako's random characters and liked her design so he decided to use her as an original character for the game. Said character was Rinne. As to whether liking her design was the main reason, or even only reason, I'm a lot less sure.

Ahh, yes. That design. If you think about it, Rinne has a lot of similarities with Plutia from the Neptunia series. Same VA, same design, same illustrator.

Originally Posted by iamadooddood

And if you think about it, making a VN to follow up on an anime makes a lot of commercial sense, regardless of whether the VN is canon or not.

I'm actually hoping she reappears, because I do want a sequel to that VN.

It does, and whoa! You want her to appear again?! I better stop my colleagues from hunting you down!

I believe there's a high chance of Rinne to be mentioned, if not appear, in the novels.

Originally Posted by iamadooddood

It was enough for Riki to complain about the deluge of speculations. Though I don't see any problem with it.

Lol you read that blog right. No idea, but I think it might have something to do with that Ashcroft Wizard.

Yeah, I did. And I got a hold of the first volume. I'm still in the dark, though.

[iamadooddood]

Originally Posted by LeWLWuT

It does, and whoa! You want her to appear again?! I better stop my colleagues from hunting you down!

I believe there's a high chance of Rinne to be mentioned, if not appear, in the novels.

Hey, now, I'm not the only one who wants that. And isn't it only natural for someone who liked the VN to want that?

Nah, I don't think the author would mention her at all in the LN.

[LeWLWuT]

Originally Posted by iamadooddood

Hey, now, I'm not the only one who wants that. And isn't it only natural for someone who liked the VN to want that?

Nah, I don't think the author would mention her at all in the LN.

Uhhh... this adds fuel to my fire of confusion. You said Rinne Utopia isn't canon, yet you like the starring character there. You don't want her to appear again, yet you want her, let's say, for yourself. What saith thou?

There are clues, if you look deep enough... After all, we got Da'at to boot, and this subject is highly debatable. Not until the author sheds light on this. So I'm just gonna wait. Hey! Only 3 days until release! Which means it would take longer for us to get them illustrations. I'm gonna study Tarot cards for now, preferably the trumps. It may give me a good overview on the tree.

[iamadooddood]

Originally Posted by LeWLWuT

Uhhh... this adds fuel to my fire of confusion. You said Rinne Utopia isn't canon, yet you like the starring character there. You don't want her to appear again, yet you want her, let's say, for yourself. What saith thou?

There are clues, if you look deep enough... After all, we got Da'at to boot, and this subject is highly debatable. Not until the author sheds light on this. So I'm just gonna wait. Hey! Only 3 days until release! Which means it would take longer for us to get them illustrations. I'm gonna study Tarot cards for now, preferably the trumps. It may give me a good overview on the tree.

I never said that I didn't want her to appear at all. I said that I wanted her to appear in the VN, just not the light novels. And whether she's canon or not, the VN's storyline is still nice.

[Nvis]

2 more days......must hold together....

BTW, if its Friday Japan time, shouldn't it be somewhere tomorrow NA time?

[Diamond English]

Originally Posted by Ragna92

I'd say the first girl wins 80% of the time. At the end of the day it's all up to the author. I've read a series where the MC ended up with a supporting character before.

I watched one , it's called Shuffle (anime)and it was the best harem I've seen or read. Remind me again,didn't MC have to choose from Mutant A who was two people in one body, Mutant B who was made up of two people or Earth could be destroyed or let's not forget (Psycho) childhood friend who usually wins by default cos she's owed comp for waking him up, but yet he choose option Z which is the funny girl who he liked and got on with most in the face of political pressure and near death.......and some magic. I still can't comprehend a MC picking a side character. Has manga conditioned me? #rhetorical question.

More importantly, I only read a bit of this and watched the anime, but is there any background on Reine? Is she kosher or is their more than meets the eye?

[Master Assassin]

Originally Posted by Nvis

2 more days......must hold together....

BTW, if its Friday Japan time, shouldn't it be somewhere tomorrow NA time?

My time is just one hours late from Japan (SEA region), so it would be sometime tomorrow at the moment of my post (September 19).

... Which would be a good time for me to keep myself busy, final assignment submissions on the same day. Yay.