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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 15 | |||
10 out of 10: Near Perfect... | 45 | 24.86% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent... | 46 | 25.41% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good... | 49 | 27.07% | |
7 out of 10 : Good... | 24 | 13.26% | |
6 out of 10 : Average... | 6 | 3.31% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average... | 1 | 0.55% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor... | 5 | 2.76% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad... | 2 | 1.10% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... | 1 | 0.55% | |
1 out of 10 : Tortuous... | 2 | 1.10% | |
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2012-10-15, 20:04 | Link #401 | |
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Anyways...I dunno, I consider NTR to be a "bad ending". To me, it's not NTR if the bad situation eventually gets resolved. That's just generic trauma. |
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2012-10-15, 20:06 | Link #402 |
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It's definitely a spoiler OP, but the other promotional material in magazines and such had the same spoilers. 'Tis a shame when they spoil story developments like that. This episodes cliffhanger was null because of the OP.
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2012-10-15, 20:22 | Link #403 | |
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My problem is that I think Sugou was a bit exaggerated as an antagonist. He didn't necessarily need to be a slimeball in order for him to get in Kazuto's way. Just the fact he's engaged to Asuna in the first place should to be more than enough reason for Kazuto to want to save her from whatever is going on considering their relationship.
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2012-10-15, 21:05 | Link #404 |
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I'm just feeling rather weird of this eps. Couldn’t Kirito just tell Asuna’s dad about the creepy fuck death treats? or provoke him on discussion again just this time record it with a phone or something.
But i guess our MC is not that bright in this series (why?) and will probably try to solve it though the game. |
2012-10-15, 21:07 | Link #405 | ||
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I dont think he's exaggerated as an antagonist. I kinda think he DOES need to be a slimeball to get in Kazuto's way because if he was any kind of respectable man, he wouldnt: A.) Even consider any of this with a young girl, much less one who hates him, B.) Try this with a girl who's in a COMA, and I'm not too sure about this one cause I'm unsure of how things are in Japan, even if it was an arranged marriage ceremony or whatever it is he's planning, he wouldnt stand in the way of Kazuto and Asuna being together. Quote:
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2012-10-15, 21:08 | Link #406 | |
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Kirito could try and provoke him again, but that's unlikely to happen. He'd have a hell of a time trying to get to Sugou's workplace, and if they met at the hospital again, Sugou may just have him thrown out, leaving little chance for a recording. And if Sugou's smart, he'd probably know what Kirito was trying to accomplish if he did start provoking him.
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2012-10-15, 21:16 | Link #407 | |
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Secondly, status is an issue because while in SAO, Kirito may be the most baller swordsman to grace the plane of existence, in the real world, Kirigaya Kazuto is a sickly, rehabilitating highschooler who has been in a coma for two years and comes from a family of modest means. At the very least, they would be hesitant to take the things he says at face value because of the trauma he went through. Asuna’s family on the other hand, has high standing in society. Anything Kirito has to say is already diminished by factors outside of his control. He, the smart kid he is, realizes his only chance, slim as it is, is to work out a solution, gain a foothold of some sort, in the only place where is he undoubtedly exceptional: in VRMMOs. Even if a MC wasn’t so intelligent, why would that make their story any less interesting? If anything, wouldn’t it be even more amazing that they manage to accomplish things that are story worthy? |
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2012-10-15, 22:57 | Link #410 | |
Okuyasu the Bird
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I just think Sugou could have been handled a bit more creatively. That's all.
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2012-10-16, 05:01 | Link #411 | |
the "Z" is for "Zeta"
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If not...that can be arranged
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2012-10-16, 07:46 | Link #413 | |
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Giving us a punch bag is a tried-and-true safe bet.
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2012-10-16, 08:17 | Link #416 |
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Somehow i feel that Sugou is just a psychopath with a desire for power, a type that is all too common in both fiction and in real life. I’m not arguing that complex villains, which Sugou is most definitely not and Kayaba arguably was, aren’t endearing and help in telling a good story, but I’ve never felt that all villains should be that way. Sometimes it’s nice to have an antagonist whose easy to hate, making their eventual defeat all the more rewarding and satisfying.
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2012-10-16, 08:23 | Link #417 |
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To be fair, sometimes people in the real world have simple motivations and are just petty. I've been on the receiving end of people who, while not quite up to Sugou's level of douchbaggery, were nevertheless real asshats who shat on others to move up. I recently got demoted by my manager to become a grunt order taker, merely because he doesn't like me - and when another department in our company headhunted me, he blocked the transfer, saying he had other plans for me (i.e. attempted punishment by humiliation, as well as a promise that my career was effectively over).
*shrug* tl;dr people in the real world are asshats.
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2012-10-16, 08:29 | Link #418 |
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I don't know I think he's fairly intelligent. After all he's playing Asuna's family well enough in order to work his way into becoming the head of their company for power, money, and prestige. Not for shits and giggles as some people make it out to be. He may not be a magnificent bastard but he is a schemer nonetheless he just enjoys it a little too much.
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2012-10-16, 10:15 | Link #419 | |
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Hopefully he'll be able keep the act he has up around Asuna's father up. I like to see the villian have a fair amount of success, makes the hero look that much better. |
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2012-10-16, 10:23 | Link #420 | |
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