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Oh, and just want to say that I'm glad everyone is enjoying our translations. It was worth all the time and effort!
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2011-08-06, 09:44 | Link #404 |
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When she was like "Just a minute, I'll be right back!", I swear to God I thought she was changing into something fanservicy or so because she got the wrong idea of what Kyon was doing. I mean, I don't see how you could interpret that scene in any other way at that moment, LOL.
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2011-08-06, 16:16 | Link #405 | |
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2011-08-07, 00:57 | Link #406 | |
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*I made this account just to join the discussion. I hope nobody minds me butting in.. |
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2011-08-07, 13:44 | Link #407 |
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So, i've registered on this forum especially for thanking personally everyone involved in the translation project. I already did it for Ultimatemegax and Yumeka, so it's now your turn:
Thank you, Zyzzyva, and Kaisos Erranon! As for the subject matter, i have some questions: a) I was under the impression that Kunikida had a slight crush on Sasaki. We later discover he likes Tsuruya. It's unclear: Did i read wrong, does he like both in a different way, do i need to reread something, or is the wording intentionally ambiguous? b) Are names generally read with the kun reading? I ask because of the riddle in Yasumi's name. I didn't know that. c) What does Koizumi mean when he says Haruhi's powers are gradually weakening? I don't think he meant it at face value. Maybe, they're proportional to her emotional instability? That would be quite terrible, and sad, if you think of the implications. But alas, I'm just as good as Kyon when it comes to understanding what Koizumi says, so i ask you some insight. And now, for the questions only the characters themselves are likely able to answer, but asking here doesn't hurt: d) Why didn't Suou perform something similar to what Yuki did in Disappearance to swap Haruhi's powers around? Could it be because she's radically different, like the TFEIs mentioned? e) Why is Kyon's approval so important? Maybe it's not, and all the scenario was orchestrated by some mastermind (Mikuru (big)?), Fujiwara himself was used as a pawn? Was he important just because of the influence he has on Sasaki, maybe? Excuse me for the wall of text. I'm constantly fearful that if i don't write stuff down, it's going to escape from my head. |
2011-08-07, 14:46 | Link #408 |
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a) I never got the impression that Kunikida likes Sasaki, just that he...respects her I guess. For Tsuruya however, I don't recall any hinting in the previous novels about him liking her. I don't have a problem with it or anything, it just kinda came out of nowhere ^^a
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2011-08-07, 19:39 | Link #409 |
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(I think this is my first post). I would like to give my heartful thanks to all people involved as well. You all did a great job from the translation down to reading format. I really appreciate your work.
My short reaction is that I feel like he's done with Sasaki for awhile. That would be a real shame IMO. I really like her character. Before that, though, let's hope the series continue first. I have a feeling that it was written such that it would be fine to stop the story here. |
2011-08-07, 22:57 | Link #411 |
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I recently read through volume 11 again, and besides the obvious plot points left for possible explanation in later novels - like Yasumi's flower, the exact relationship between Fujiwara and Mikuru, whether Kuyou will return or not, etc., one random thing I wasn't clear on is exactly where Haruhi was when Kuyou brought her to the Closed Space. According to the two timelines, she was either on her way home (alpha) or at Yuki's place (beta). So she must have temporarily disappeared from wherever she was around 6pm and then returned about two hours later. That would be fine if she was at Yuki's place since I'm sure Yuki would know what was going on, but if she was walking home, it would be kind of weird if she disappeared in front of people (if Itsuki and Mikuru were still with her, they probably wouldn't be surprised but other people on the street would). But then, didn't Itsuki tell Kyon in the epilogue that Haruhi was returned home after the whole ordeal? If she was at home at the time, I guess her parents weren't around or they would have been pretty shocked if she disappeared in front of them! I would say she was sleeping in bed at the time and woke up thinking it was a bad dream or something, but it was a bit too early for her to be in bed (plus she was still in her school uniform). Then again, Haruhi could have used her powers to rewrite those two hours somehow so we may never know.
Heh, I know it's a minor thing but I kept thinking about it for some reason.
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2011-08-08, 01:01 | Link #412 |
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Who says that Kuyou picked her from the now? It would have been easier to pick her from two hours later, when she was asleep already, then return her to two hours and a few minutes later, in a closed room, in an empty bed, with no one watching.
We already know that Kuyou has a feeble grasp on local spacetime-for once, this could be used as an advantage. EDIT: Uhhh, you're right, she really was in her school uniform. This crushes my theory... |
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Speaking of meaningful names, the "Asahi" in "Asahina" means "tomorrow" and "Mikuru" can be an alternate reading of the kanji for "mirai" meaning "future". It's very likely that Mikuru's name is an alias just like Fujiwara's. Quote:
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2011-08-08, 03:19 | Link #414 | |
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So that explanation makes no sense. |
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2011-08-08, 03:33 | Link #415 |
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Sorry dude, but I have to disagree. There are WAY too many plot threads that are unresolved. The series is no where near resolution, and I think most of the fanbase would seriously rage if the series ended here. I know for a fact that I would be one of them.
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2011-08-08, 05:09 | Link #416 |
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@Yumeka
Good point. alpha-Haruhi was probably at Yuki's apartment together with Mikuru and, well, Yuki herself. beta-Haruhi was on her way home together with Itsuki and Mikuru. But beta-Itsuki met his alpha counterpart at the school gate and entered the fated mixed Closed Space. Yuki probably didn't care if Haruhi disappeared all of a sudden, it's just where the both small Mikurus where in both timelines. Here's my explanation for roughly the same question a page back:
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2011-08-09, 00:31 | Link #417 |
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Well, I agree with you actually. Just feel like it was written with such an intention in mind. Probably because Kyon said something along the line of "using all my past experiences" to figure out how to solve the problem and it kinda stuck in my head. No argument though on there are many points to explore. For example, he only barely touch on Kujou in this story arc in my opinion. I personally want to see more of Sasaki as well.
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2011-08-09, 03:30 | Link #418 | |
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2011-08-09, 13:34 | Link #419 |
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Have to agree with you JB, especially since Tsuruya actually mentions the thing at the end of the novel.
Anyways, I'll say here what I said on tvtropes: Just read both parts last night. I'm not going to lie, I was actually rather underwhelmed with most of it, I guess due to the fact that it was really depressing ... until the final chapter. Then I realized that all the wait had been worth it (also, I guess since I'd already read the data space battle the instant it got translated that it didn't have as big of an impact for me). That final chapter though, ho-ly shit. Random thoughts: - Itsuki is credit to team - I find it somewhat odd that Kuyou has almost gotten Karma Houdini status, in that no one seems to care that she tried to kill Haruhi. Sure it was at Fujiwara's insistence, but it's not like she had a problem with it. - I see that there's probably at least a couple of plot holes that have been dropped, what with the Kyon who fell through time thing that happened at the end. - A glimpse of all three TFEI at the end, surely this won't be the last appearance of Asakura. I really can't thank the Pt B enough. - What interests me the most though, has to be in the author's notes. Tanigawa specifically mentions a "somewhat strange thing and character" and then goes on to say "I think the character will have a damaged personality". I wonder if this is for a new series, or if this character will appear in an upcoming novel, or if he's planning to somehow even change one of the existing characters to fit this... It was an awesome read though. I guess I wasn't in the right mindset through most of it, but that climax just changed my perspective on the whole thing and made me appreciate the buildup a lot more.
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