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Perfect 10 |
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365 | 44.95% |
9 out of 10 : Excellent |
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199 | 24.51% |
8 out of 10 : Very Good |
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92 | 11.33% |
7 out of 10 : Good |
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76 | 9.36% |
6 out of 10 : Average |
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31 | 3.82% |
5 out of 10 : Below Average |
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20 | 2.46% |
4 out of 10 : Poor |
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9 | 1.11% |
3 out of 10 : Bad |
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4 | 0.49% |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad |
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2 | 0.25% |
1 out of 10 : Painful |
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14 | 1.72% |
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Link #422 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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One thing about writing is that you do not use informed ability Since you don't know informed abilitiy I will tell you what it is. Its when the author tells us something instead of showing us "Dorothea and Monica are elite pilots and are one of the best in Britannia" When they actually show up they are killed in seconds showing us that they are anything but elite. A famous similar example is Mai from Yu-gi-oh!, in the manga Mai loses every match she's ever in, and at no point in time do we ever believe that she's some elite duelist. All the matches she wins are shown off screen against people we have never seen before. I don't care what excuses you have, you don't do it, I expect the greatest anime ever to have better writing than a merchandise driven shonen. Basically, your right |
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Link #424 |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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I am perfectly aware of IA.
And you seem to totally conveniently forget, again, that Monica and Dorothea couldn't do anything good in the first place because they had crappy Frames due to in-universe circumstances. You want lazy combat, look at Victory Gundam. What, did you honestly expect that two pilots, no matter what the hell their status was, could do anything in: a) Fifth-gens. And against: b) Suzaku? The, oh, best pilot in the show tied with Kallen? |
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Link #425 |
Um-Shmum
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: at GNR, bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts
Age: 39
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gillford can match toudo in his gloceter in season 1 (while toudo is either piloting a costume gekka or a burai-kai
after he gets his zangetsu he can fight xing-ke on equal grounds gino can also fight xing-ke on equal grounds meaning that gino=toudo=gilford=xing-ke and since xing-ke was less then a match for bismark then its bismark>gino=toudo=gilford=xing-ke the four holy blades= glaston knights (more or less) thats piloting skill based not only on frame (as the season one gilford vs toudo show) but on skill of pilots now notice this suzaku fights off toudo and four other gekka's (four holy blades) in season 1 in his original lancelot (the guren is also there but isnt part of the fight once suzaku's ID is exposed) kallen beats gillford+glaston knights+gino+anya in the guren kasoshiki (not the hax SEITEN) in season2 at that point all these machines are about on par with each other (aside from teh MP models which naturally are weaker) later on suzaku beats bismark+gino+2 KOR (in mook machines) + some mooks (who dont count really) in his new albion which is a hax machine (bismarks geass gives him an edge until suzaku's geass command kicks in) kallen beats luciano (who im guessing is on par with gino)+ the valkyrie squad+ suzaku (easily, despite them being equal in skill) becouse she has the SEITEN which is also a hax machine and finally kallen and suzaku fight to a standstill becouse their skill and machines are pretty much on the same level (the diference in the specs of the guren is balanced by suzaku's geass order) both suzaku and kallen are simply a level above all the other pilots so if you stick suzaku in a 9th gen machine and pit him against lesser pilots in mook machines then naturalyl they would get crashed its basic logic better pilot in better machine wins
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Link #426 |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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I understand that now understand this
Its lazy writing It's clear that Taniguchi, and Okouchi didn't want to write an actual mecha battle, and had created too many KoR so two of them go out in mook mechas and are killed in seconds (bringing up Informed Ability) than Bismarck is defeated by way of Asspull (Suzaku's geass giving him super abilities). I consider to be the second worst mecha fight ever written (Shinn vs Athrun is easily the worst), at least with most one sided battles you at least get some comedy or it sets up a plot point. Schneizel being defeated by the same way as Mao (an insane person obsessed with C.C) also is lazy writing simply because it tells us that Lelouch is either so amazingly intelligent that he can simply predict what someone was about to say, or that Schneizel is an obsessed moron like Mao. I am hard on Code Geass because people called it the best, I was hard on Gurren Lagann too, but that exceeded my expectations. |
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Link #427 |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Germany
Age: 34
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Schneizel simply didn't think Lelouch would use his Geass on him.
Maybe he forgot about it (which I doubt) or he counted on Lelouch's hate (which is much more likely). Had Lelouch killed him, then Schneizel would still have won. And mechas bore me, so I'm glad the fights were always rather quick. |
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Um-Shmum
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: at GNR, bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts
Age: 39
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i dont think all the mecha battles in the show were as bad as you make it sound but have no mistake i really REALLY do think that the last arc was poor writing
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Link #429 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Hero kills villains in seconds |
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Link #431 |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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That solves everything
You hear that everyone instead of having challenging fights just have the good guys steamroll over everyone and then have the fans point out that the Britannians just suck. Its not like the black knights where an impressive fighting force, all the success was due to like 3 people (Lelouch, Kallen, and Todoh). Hell as soon as Lelouch leaves the entire army falls apart in minutes. |
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Link #433 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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I should also point out that Britannia was supposed to be the dominant force. This isn't like in Gundam Seed, or MSG where the Federation had no mobile suits for half the war. |
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Link #434 |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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A dominant force can meet its match.
And I liked Luciano. He was good in Turn 17, and the only foe aside from Suzaku and C.C. to last more than a second or two against the Guren SEITEN, fighting to his last. Commendable. And again, Dorothea and Monica were stuck in bottom-of-the-barrel Frames against a pilot and unit far superior to them. I digress. But Luciano and Bismarck went down fighting, and that's good enough for me. Monica and Dorothea were simply victims of circumstance. |
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Link #435 |
Um-Shmum
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: at GNR, bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts
Age: 39
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i actually hate luciano very much and was very happy when kallen put him out of my misery
but i'll give him that much he put up a fight before dying
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Link #436 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Also Luciano got killed pretty quickly as well, sure he could take on the Black knights, but as stated the black knights where mostly good at posing. Lelouch, Kallen, Todoh, and the 4 swords where the only actually good pilots the black knights had. |
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Link #437 |
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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He got killed quickly, but, read again, he put up a fight, and was one of the two people to actually do so outright. The most C.C. did was fire missiles and...float around. Suzaku, well, we know what happened.
And it's standard logic that a leaderless organization falls apart. |
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Link #438 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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They could at least put up a fight and not give up, is Todoh such a crappy leader that he can't even muster a fight. Just compare them to Mt. Briggs forces in FMA, where they are able to defeat enemies while their leader is in Central. |
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Link #439 |
Um-Shmum
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: at GNR, bringing you the truth, no matter how bad it hurts
Age: 39
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luciano used ever weapon he had against kallen and they all got shaved off
the same thing happned with suzaku (in 18) where he just got over whelmed by the machine specs if suzaku couldnt hold on for more the a few moves what do you expect from luciano the fight between kallen and suzaku in 25 however did last a few minutes and had both fighters going at it full force from the start and it was IMO the best KMF battle in the show there are some really awesome moves you have to look at very slowly to see (like kallen wraping her harkens around the lancelot to draw it in for a punch) and this is becouse both fighters are equals in more or less equal machines ither curb stompers are so becouse of the difference in skill and machines
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Link #440 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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I just see a lot of excuses like how the Britannians where not as good as Zeon so I should give them some slack, well why aren't the Britannians as good as Zeon? Shouldn't you aim for the best at all times? Is Gundam Seed the new bar that all mecha anime should be held too? |
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