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View Poll Results: Valvrave the Liberator - Episode 10 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 53 | 39.26% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 29 | 21.48% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 21 | 15.56% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 8 | 5.93% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 7 | 5.19% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 1.48% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.74% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 2 | 1.48% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 0.74% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 11 | 8.15% | |
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2013-06-15, 02:11 | Link #422 | |
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And Saki was the only one with which his eyes turned red. I know ggsubs refers to them as "holy spirits", though that idea has been totally tossed out the window now...
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2013-06-15, 03:50 | Link #423 |
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That was an utterly incredible twist at the end and I just can't hate on it because I have to admit that it was very well set up. The hints were there. I was even thinking back on those now obvious hints as I saw it happening and all i could think of was just "Wow Valvrave, I tip my hat to you sir. You've had me there". Although in hindsight, I suppose there are unfortunate implications in making rape a clever twist...
Feel bad for both Haruto and Saki. Whether or not it was consensual, Saki clearly didn't enjoy it and i got the feeling that even if she did consent to it then she only did it because she thought she had to and that's practically as bad as rape. Can't really blame Haruto for it since he obviously didn't want it to happen and was being controlled. The blame ultimately lies with those that created the Valvampirism. I'm also glad that this episode clarified one thing: Shoko's methods of emotion of over reasoning are probably not going to win out in the end. I just hope the show isn't too cruel to her as a result.
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2013-06-15, 03:53 | Link #424 | ||
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Besides, VCV is right - Haruto sacrificed his humanity. For it to mean something, he pretty much had to murder or rape someone. They went with rape. Why not? Especially as it ties to other aspects of the story. |
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2013-06-15, 06:25 | Link #425 | |
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Why should I have expected rape in this story? This series hasn't been serious at all up to this point. In fact I have been constantly told we shouldn't take it seriously and the writers are in on the joke. Well there is nothing funny about this.
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2013-06-15, 06:28 | Link #426 | |
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In Haruto's own mind, it had already cost him a possible romance with Shoko. It also means he goes completely crazy every now and then, trying to bite people. That's a very significant cost right there, imo. There's no need to add anything on to it. It's fine if you like the rape plot twist, but let's not pretend it was needed, because it wasn't.
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2013-06-15, 06:33 | Link #427 | |
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Honestly, I think the whole concept is rather shallow in itself. I'm sure there's a grand meaning to it, but I can't help but find it odd that Sunrise has decided to craft a plot based around space vampire rape.
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2013-06-15, 06:48 | Link #428 | |||||
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Or some insidious loss of emotion and attachment to human beings, but that'd have been a completely different direction. Or, yes, they could have kept treating the resignation from humanity as completely meaningless. |
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2013-06-15, 07:06 | Link #429 | |
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Many a sci-fi show (including the likes of Star Trek) have argued that mortality is an essential part of being human. Many a sci-fi show have argued that immortality is a bad thing, it should be noted.
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2013-06-15, 07:15 | Link #430 | |
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2013-06-15, 07:20 | Link #431 | |
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The anti-immortality movement is just a defence mechanism, to lie to one self about how the inevitable isn't too bad. I silly find it silly that the Bicentennial Man film ended with the message that a kind robot committed suicide because death was the only way he could be legally accepted as a human-being. That a mortal is SUPERIOR to an Immortal. And so a robot who served humanity unquestionable all his life gave himself a lethal injection. Because humans told him he had to, to be one of them. Look, back on topic, Immortality in VVV IS actually a bad thing, but not because of the immortality. Specifically, with Haruto he had to pay the price of obeying VVV-tan. And since he lives forever he would be a slave forever. This is not the fault of the immortality, but the fault of the price he had to pay to get it. If you want to play the immortality as a curse card, you are watching the wrong show. Indeed, if you want immortality to be bad, don't watch anything made in Asia.
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2013-06-15, 07:39 | Link #436 | |
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Kinda reminds me of what happens in vampire media when one doesn't feed for a while and goes berserk.
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2013-06-15, 07:45 | Link #438 |
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That's the most likely explanation to his action or OS-tan's action...
after living with L-Elf's and he's been so kind to not let Haruto bite him... or have his meal... another added factor will be Haruto himself since he isn't aware of the feeding system... there's been no body jacking since the death of megane and he has no reason to jack someone else... Saki's offer to have Haruto bite her might be the best option but the offer was done way too late... also Saki did prevent Haruto from biting the Takahi in the elevator, that time his eyes were not yet red so he'll probably just bite her off... a really ironic karma... |
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