Mahouka LN - Prologue of Disturbance (Volumes 21 & 22) Discussion / Poll

[Y Ddraig Goch]

Originally Posted by DanielSong39

Never say never but based on what I've seen Masaki has even less of a chance than Katsuto Juumonji.

I don't think Miyuki has even considered the possibility of being with someone other than Tatsuya - the world would freeze over before that ever happened.

I hope it stays that way.

I've had a bad feeling eating me up ever since the engagement arc. Y'know how Tatsuya is trying to achieve the impossible for mages all around and open up possibilities for them that doesn't involve being a weapon? Well, I fear the author might have Masaki and Mayumi defy all odds as well and end up with their desired respective partner (since it would go against Maya wants for Tatsuya, more-or-less)

It's an irrational idea, I know, but the fact that Tatsuya and Miyuki had such a development early on (the engagement) and be under Maya's keikaku sphere again gives me a bad feeling.

Bloody hell, this is why I should read light novels AFTER they're finished. I always go into speculation about things I don't like. >_>

[sparhawk1610]

Originally Posted by Y Ddraig Goch

I hope it stays that way.

I've had a bad feeling eating me up ever since the engagement arc. Y'know how Tatsuya is trying to achieve the impossible for mages all around and open up possibilities for them that doesn't involve being a weapon? Well, I fear the author might have Masaki and Mayumi defy all odds as well and end up with their desired respective partner (since it would go against Maya wants for Tatsuya, more-or-less)

It's an irrational idea, I know, but the fact that Tatsuya and Miyuki had such a development early on (the engagement) and be under Maya's keikaku sphere again gives me a bad feeling.

Bloody hell, this is why I should read light novels AFTER they're finished. I always go into speculation about things I don't like. >_>

Honestly, I can´t imagine what will have to happen to be it as you write...
You know, Tatsuya and Miyuki feelings are pretty clear I think.

[Medivh]

Preview of v22 is out
http://dengekibunko.jp/books/1706mah...ukou22/?page=1

[nilocolin]

Anyone care to share what happens in the new volume?

[Crazy Frog]

Originally Posted by nilocolin

Anyone care to share what happens in the new volume?

go to wiki or discord. too length to paste summary here

[zerosum]

Here...

Spoiler for Maybe a spoiler.....:

1st part

After the inconsequential 10MC youth meeting, Tatsuya immediately left to Yotsuba main house to report. Saegusa Tomokazu wanted he to stay for dinner. Tatsuya rejected Tomokazu invitation by saying he has something else on. At this moment, a female employee at magic association came and inform that Yotsuba’s VTOL is waiting at the rooftop. The one receiving Tatsuya is the son of butler Hanabishi, Hanabishi Hyougo. Along the way they picked up Miyuki and Minami. They head towards Yotsuba main house.


2nd part

At the same time, Saburou was training at Chiba dojo. Using a bamboo sword with the length of a sword, he fighting leo with a bamboo sword the length of an odachi with all his might. In the end, he was knocked out by Leo with his sword. Saburou wanted to fight again. Erika thinks there might be after effect and rejected it. But she thinks that if he release control of his telekinesis (not sure), Saburou will win.


3rd part

Back at Yotsuba main house. Maya and the younger generation of Yotsuba discuss about what happen at the Saikashintou Island and the recent meeting that Tatsuya attend. Tatsuya indicate that Captain James Jackson and Jasmine Williams of Australia army was sent to Miyakijima. Miyakijima Island (巳焼島) is an imaginary island that formed 50 km east of Miyakijima Island (三宅島) in 2001 by undersea volcanic activity. In the beginning, there is a military base, around 2050 volcano erupted, later it was changed into prison for criminal magicians. Using backdoor deals from Aoba, it essentially became yotsuba private territory.

Miyakijima Island prison was secretly authorised by the military for Yotsuba to isolate dangerous magicians. Miyuki during her junior high time practised nilfheim there, Ayako had strong impression of it. At that time, the island’s west volcano was erupting, endangering the prison for captive magicians, 8km square of molten lava was the best practice ground. Because the facilities is old, Maya on behalf of military abolished the prison and created a military lab in name. Maya ask tatsuya if other people can also use the magic which neutralise other magicians, Gatekeeper. Tatsuya says after alteration, magicians with mental interference can in principle use it. Maya ask if it has been codified. Tatsuya replied he has brought it.

Maya ask if it is possible to let Tsukuba family to alter it. Tatsuya does not mind it. (because tatsuya originally did not want to keep it a secret). Afterwards, the discussion returns to Saegusa proposing having Miyuki be an advertising star. Fumiya and Ayako was angry. Yuuka and Katsuhige disapproved. Maya supports the tatsuya decision and decide to ignore the issue that Saegusa wanted to make use of Miyuki.

Fumiya: it is good to ignore? (meaning they should fight back).

Maya: if we are being attacked, then we would not have to be kind. But we cannot be careless. We are not invincible. We cannot assume that Yotsuba magicians would always win against other family magicians. Especially Jumonji family, Tooyama family and Kudou Minorou. According to Maya calculation, Jumonji family, Tooyama family and Yotsuba family is on another level with the other 25 families. 10th lab purpose is to have the capital as the last line of defence. Jumonji’s phalanx needs no more explanation. Tooyama family’s individual barrier can handle multiple people.

Kastuhige: Is it good to always be in a confrontational stance? Although we cannot approve using Miyuki as an advertising idol, it is not a good idea to give up cooperation with other family in the anti-magician issue.

Yuuka: Then what can we do, we do not want to oppose, but we do not want to succumb, can cooperation be possible? The other party wants to make use of our next head, is there any better situation? (Kastuhige says that Yuuka is surprisingly aggressive)

Fumiya reckons that isolation for Yostuba is not that scary. Even the self-claimed world strongest stars defence ability may not be better than the Yotsuba. If there is a fight with the other numbers family, the main and side branch just have to support Tatsuya and Miyuki.

Maya reaffirms the final decision: If there are any ulterior motives towards the next head of Yotsuba, ignore all of them, on the event of being attacked, based on personal judgement and retaliate.


4th part

Saburou went to Chiba house to train again. This time, the opponent is Erika, he was knocked out on the floor. After fighting, Erika decided to shower. Resulted in her happily seeing Leo stretching his muscle in front of mirror

So jasmine still not dead and Tooyama family look like have similiar ability as juumonji but a bit different??? and expected Youtsuba lack in quantity to against other family.

Finally got hear and see Leo existence to assist erika to train Saburo but the last part definitely a payback from volume 6

[amtro]

Originally Posted by Crazy Frog

go to wiki or discord. too length to paste summary here

That is taken from the free preview. Should be okay to post it.

[fujin of shadows]

Spoiler for Volume 22 spoiler:

Credit to Medivh:


1st part

After the inconsequential 10mc youth meeting, tatsuya immediately left to head to yotsuba main house to report. Saegusa tomokazu wanted to stay for dinner. Tatsuya rejected saegusa san by saying he has something else on. At this moment, a female employee at magic association came and inform that yotsuba’s VTOL is waiting at the rooftop. The one receiving tatsuya is the son of butler hanabishi, hanabishi hyougo. Along the way they picked up miyuki and minami and head towards yotsuba main house.


2nd part

At the same time, saburou was training at chiba dojo. Using a bamboo sword with the length of a sword sword, fighting leo with a bamboo sword the length of an odachi with all his might. In the end, he was knocked out by leo with his sword. Saburou wanted to fight again. Erika thinks there might be after effect and rejected it. But she thinks that if he release control of his telekinesis (not sure), saburou will win.


3rd part

Back at yotsuba main house. Maya and the younger generation of yotsuba discuss about what happen at the Saikashintou island and the recent meeting that tatsuya attend. Tatsuya indicate that Captain James Jackson and Jasmine Williams of Australia army was sent to Miyakijima. Miyakijima Island (巳焼島) is an imaginary island that formed 50 km east of Miyakijima Island (三宅島) in 2001 by undersea volcanic activity. In the beginning, there is a military base, around 2050 volcano erupted, later it was changed into prison for criminal magicians. Using backdoor deals from Aoba, it essentially became yotsuba private territory.

Miyakijima Island prison was secretly authorised by the military for yotsuba to isolate dangerous magicians. Miyuki during her junior high time practised nilfheim there, Ayako had strong impression of it. At that time, the island’s west volcano was erupting, endangering the prison for captive magicians, 8km square of molten lava was the best practice ground. Because the facilities is old, Maya on behalf of military abolished the prison and created a military lab in name. Maya ask tatsuya if other people can also use the magic which neutralise other magicians, Gatekeeper. Tatsuya says after alteration, magicians with mental interference can in principle use it. Maya ask if it has been codified. Tatsuya replied he has brought it.

Maya ask if it is possible to let Tsukuba family to alter it. Tatsuya does not mind it. (because tatsuya originally did not want to keep it a secret). Afterwards, the discussion returns to saegusa proposing having miyuki be an advertising star. Fumiya and Ayako was angry. Yuuka and katsuhige disapproved. Maya supports the tatsuya decision and decide to ignore the issue that saegusa wanted to make use of miyuki.

Fumiya: it is good to ignore? (meaning they should fight back). Maya: if we are being attacked, then we would not have to be kind. But we cannot be careless. We are not invincible. We cannot assume that yotsuba magicians would always win against other family magicians. Especially jumonji family, tooyama family and kudou minorou. According to Maya calculation, jumonji family, tooyama family and yotsuba family is on another level with the other 25 families. 10th lab purpose is to have the capital as the last line of defence. jumonji’s phalanx needs no more explanation. Tooyama family’s individual barrier can handle multiple people. Kastuhige: is it good to always be in a confrontational stance? Although we cannot approve using miyuki as an advertising idol, it is not a good idea to give up cooperation with other family in the anti-magician issue. Yuuka: Then what can we do, we do not want to oppose, but we do not want to succumb, can cooperation be possible? The other party wants to make use of our next head, is there any better situation? (kastuhige says that yuuka is surprisingly aggressive)

Fumiya reckons that isolation for yostuba is not that scary Even the self-claimed world strongest stars defence ability may not be better than the yotsuba. If there is a fight with the other numbers family, the main and side branch just have to support tatsuya and miyuki. Maya reaffirms the final decision: if there are any ulterior motives towards the next head of yotsuba, ignore all of them, on the event of being attacked, based on personal judgement and retaliate.


4th part

Saburou went to chiba house and train again. This time, the opponent is Erika, Was knocked out on the floor. Erika, after fighting, decided to shower. Resulted in her happily seeing Leo stretching his muscle in front of mirror


Credit to Lord Odin93:

Miyakijima Island (巳焼島) is an imaginary island that formed 50 km east of Miyakijima Island (三宅島) in 2001 by undersea volcanic activity. It is also called "21st century New Island". Through repeated undersea volcanic eruptions it's roughly the same size as the Greater Tokyo Area (8 km^2).

The National Defense Force had put a base on the island during World War III, but abandoned it due to repeated volcanic eruptions in the 2050's.

Facilities are located on the western end of the island where imprisoned magicians who are criminals, are housed. In addition the island is privately owned by the Yotsuba Family through Toudou Aoba. Though it is owned by a real estate company in a metroploitan city, the shares for it are all controlled by the Yotsuba Family.

Miyuki during her time in junior high practiced Niflheim at a practive field on the island.

Spoiler for img:

[Fairy Water]

Satou tries to keep Erika and Leo around by giving them some minor roles in every arc as always. And here I thought Saburou will be the next lucky man in Chiba's bathroom.

Maya being supportive lately feels so different from her supposed antihero role from the start. And they r still talking about that idol idea lol?

[mashingan]

Thanks @zerosum and @fujin (also @LordOdin93) for the summary. I've been trying to read but my progress is slow, also because of work so didn't have much time to spare

Spoiler for read it a bit, ok, several pages :p :

I didn't follow closely the sparring Leo vs Saburou, but it seems Leo smacked Saburou's forehead with his Odachi (large sword),
immediately after that Erika ordered her disciple to apply healing magic to Saburou
In that sparring, Saburou was using Kodachi (smaller type katana, in this case is shinai instead of actual blade)

Erika said if Saburou used his PsychoKinesis (PK), he would win against Leo. Leo rebutted with, timing-wise it should double blow, but Erika explained more that even though Saburou's PK was limited in weight of object, a 100 gram blade wound the vital spot was the vital point ( )
Saburou was using two kodachi (really?) while Leo using Oodachi, so Saburou should be able to guard with another kodachi but Leo would be no guard.

Saburou replied with understood but the reply wasn't filled with confidence.

Originally Posted by Fairy Water

Satou tries to keep Erika and Leo around by giving them some minor roles in every arc as always. And here I thought Saburou will be the next lucky man in Chiba's bathroom.

Maya being supportive lately feels so different from her supposed antihero role from the start. And they r still talking about that idol idea lol?

If Maya wasn't like that, then isn't meaningless for her to elevate Tatsuya's status in Yotsuba?
Also, Tatsuya is "officially" Maya's son, so it's understandable for mother to treat her son nice

[kouya rokuro]

Originally Posted by mashingan

If Maya wasn't like that, then isn't meaningless for her to elevate Tatsuya's status in Yotsuba?
Also, Tatsuya is "officially" Maya's son, so it's understandable for mother to treat her son nice

agree, ahahahaha
and its nice too see yotsuba youngster,
i hope to see other like mugura and mashiba, but i see on yotsuba clan genealogy, they dont have a child, maybe?

Originally Posted by Fairy Water

Satou tries to keep Erika and Leo around by giving them some minor roles in every arc as always. And here I thought Saburou will be the next lucky man in Chiba's bathroom.

Maya being supportive lately feels so different from her supposed antihero role from the start. And they r still talking about that idol idea lol?

i expect erika,leo,mizuki and mikihiko to have more roles in this volume, because in vol 20 they didn't show up.

[BalorView]

Saburou went to Chiba house to train again. This time, the opponent is Erika, he was knocked out on the floor. After fighting, Erika decided to shower. Resulted in her happily seeing Leo stretching his muscle in front of mirror

*Raises Flag*

[kouya rokuro]

still hoping tatsuya x erika, but now its not possible, then again leo is a fine man,

[mashingan]

Hmm, for the 4th part, I think the scene is still the same as part 1. Kinda funny to see Leo making that pose , and he's still holding hair dryer when making that pose

Spoiler for Maya's interesting opinion about 10th lab:

Maya said, Juumonji clan was said as "The Capital Final Defence". But ultimately, 10th Lab was intended as "The Central Govt Final Defence" and it's Tooyama clan.
The capability wasn't wide area defence field but personal field. Not only one person, but defending multiple persons at the same time.
When Fumiya enquired whether it's the same concept as multicast, Maya said she didn't know that far.

[Fairy Water]

I definitely want more the circle of weed friends, Tatsuya is really funny whenever he is with them

Originally Posted by kouya rokuro

still hoping tatsuya x erika, but now its not possible, then again leo is a fine man,

Don't give up after all those unreasonable ships shonen magakas have pulled
If only after 21 volumes (and SS volume) Erika or Leo developed some feelings for each other, it would have been easier to accept ship but too bad they are like best bros now.

[zerosum]

Originally Posted by mashingan

Hmm, for the 4th part, I think the scene is still the same as part 1. Kinda funny to see Leo making that pose , and he's still holding hair dryer when making that pose

Spoiler for Maya's interesting opinion about 10th lab:

Maya said, Juumonji clan was said as "The Capital Final Defence". But ultimately, 10th Lab was intended as "The Central Govt Final Defence" and it's Tooyama clan.
The capability wasn't wide area defence field but personal field. Not only one person, but defending multiple persons at the same time.
When Fumiya enquired whether it's the same concept as multicast, Maya said she didn't know that far.

Hair dryer??? seriously LOL This bring back old memories as student, sometimes do some youth stuff but doing body streching in front of mirror plus with hair dryer is really shamefull after got spotted. This make me wonder about this original summary a bit odd cause it work if erika and leo is a couple or they already being a couple back then??? or it actually different pronouce?

So 10th lab are for improve barrier. I think Tooyama capability a bit similiar to juumonji but with high or wide area recovery but lack to do affensive stuff like Juumonji did during Yokohama arc Hope Tatsuya byron lance able to penetrate that barrier.

[kouya rokuro]

Originally Posted by mashingan

Hmm, for the 4th part, I think the scene is still the same as part 1. Kinda funny to see Leo making that pose , and he's still holding hair dryer when making that pose

ahahahahaha...
leeo,ahahahaha..wanna see it on picture, but just imagine that its funny enough, really miss they banter

Originally Posted by mashingan

Spoiler for Maya's interesting opinion about 10th lab:

Maya said, Juumonji clan was said as "The Capital Final Defence". But ultimately, 10th Lab was intended as "The Central Govt Final Defence" and it's Tooyama clan.
The capability wasn't wide area defence field but personal field. Not only one person, but defending multiple persons at the same time.
When Fumiya enquired whether it's the same concept as multicast, Maya said she didn't know that far.

tooyama clan give me bad feeling,

Originally Posted by Fairy Water

I definitely want more the circle of weed friends, Tatsuya is really funny whenever he is with them

Don't give up after all those unreasonable ships shonen magakas have pulled
If only after 21 volumes (and SS volume) Erika or Leo developed some feelings for each other, it would have been easier to accept ship but too bad they are like best bros now.

agreee! ahaha..their conversation is nice, its something, ahaha..honestly i'm getting bored with honoka cs (sorry )

yeah..erika and leo always pissed when people say they're like a couple

[kouya rokuro]

Originally Posted by zerosum

Hair dryer??? seriously LOL This bring back old memories as student, sometimes do some youth stuff but doing body streching in front of mirror plus with hair dryer is really shamefull after got spotted. This make me wonder about this original summary a bit odd cause it work if erika and leo is a couple or they already being a couple back then??? or it actually different pronouce?

So 10th lab are for improve barrier. I think Tooyama capability a bit similiar to juumonji but with high or wide area recovery but lack to do affensive stuff like Juumonji did during Yokohama arc Hope Tatsuya byron lance able to penetrate that barrier.

i believe tatsuya byron lance will show up,
i dont really understand about this byron lance, when tatsuya used it on yotsuba clan meeting, the "boar" is dead right?
so when tatsuya use it to against phalax or tooyama barrier what will happend? will they dead too? or just the magic like when tatsuya used decomposition?

[Eclar]

Originally Posted by kouya rokuro

i believe tatsuya byron lance will show up,
i dont really understand about this byron lance, when tatsuya used it on yotsuba clan meeting, the "boar" is dead right?
so when tatsuya use it to against phalax or tooyama barrier what will happend? will they dead too? or just the magic like when tatsuya used decomposition?

Tatsuya invented the Baryon Lance in order to bypass barriers/defenses where Decomposition doesn't work. Remember the incident in Volume 7 where the chinese people used those high powered rifles? Those rifles were designed to bypass certain spells that would affect conventional weapons. The same principle applies to the Baryon Lance. Aside from the the way it is used, it carries a lot of speed (10000 km/s is no joke) that no normal magician would be able to react or defend.

TL;DR, the boar is dead and Tatsuya can bypass Phalanx and other defensive spells with the Baryon Lance and pretty much kill them with that single shot.

[zerosum]

Thanks @Medivh for information.

Look like we dont need to wait long for next volume 23. It will out at 10 August(2 month from now) and come with single arc - Isolation. I got a very bad feeling base from arc title only and base from short synopsis it look like someting will happen to tatsuya and miyuki.....