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The 1st | 24 | 5.99% | |
The 2nd | 3 | 0.75% | |
Sarutobi | 117 | 29.18% | |
The 4th | 119 | 29.68% | |
Jiraiya | 27 | 6.73% | |
Orochimaru | 10 | 2.49% | |
Tsunde | 4 | 1.00% | |
Itachi | 73 | 18.20% | |
Other...[Please State Who] | 24 | 5.99% | |
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DBZ reference: Ginyu possessing Goku's body; he didn't know how to use it. It was Sasukemaru's list that i modified to fit how i rank them. Quote:
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2011-12-18, 07:41 | Link #425 |
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You should probably put your list in some spoiler tags, Divinegundam.
But let me come up with my own. I am going to exlude Pain, as in Pain, not Nagato, though, because he's much more a weapon than a ninja himself. Also, I'll solely focus on characters we have at least seen fight once. Just for fun, I'm going to measure everyone's strength by Minato's standard, which I am going to set at 100. Lol. Spoiler for manga:
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2011-12-18, 12:28 | Link #426 | |
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Just on "bp"(chakra) Kakashi should not be on the list (pushing my fanboy in the closet here) he has no where near the charka level as those on your list. Second personal i think A has more chakra than Orc; lighting armor is a real chakra drain. the Third Raikage i think maybe near Nagato. However most of your point i agree with especially Edo Madara just at the top with 110; the Sage would be like 150-180...haha.
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2011-12-18, 18:01 | Link #429 | |
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bottom line is this question: is the kyuubi's chakra part of naruto's power? i say yes. you and the couple other people i debated here say no. simple as that when you get down to it. edit: and of course i disagree with that first battle you mentioned. the others are plenty arguable too btw. orochimaru was weak when sasuke absorbed him. sasuke was certainly more powerful at that time. he admitted to team hebi that he won only because orochimaru was weakened, so he wouldn't have been a prime orochimaru, but he was more powerful at taht particular time. sasuke and itachi debate goes on and on. bottom line is you are right, but he didn't really 'beat' itachi gaara and kimimaru is the same as sasuke and orochi in that kimimaru was weakened due to health reasons so gaara was actually more powerful at taht time. he just lucked out kimimaru was in a weakened state |
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2011-12-18, 20:01 | Link #430 |
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OK that how I went about it to, I just did not classify it in one term. That is why I also put kakashi in the kage lvl he makes up for his lack in stamina with skill and battle experience while Naruto makes his way by mostly stamina and chakra. I would love if kishi would have Kakashi's Ms evolve into the rinnegan...... Win!! When I'm not on a tablet I'll make a new list based on the Sage (bp 200)
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@ zgoten and divinegundam: why do you guys have kisame ranked lower than bee? not only did kisame overpower bee when they faught, he completely tricked him on top of it. edit: and how could you not rank Gai above kisame?
the way I see it gai > kisame > bee also, I agree with zgoten about minato. he should be ranked above sarutobi. the 3rd even said it himself in so many words that minato was the best ever in the village. rikudo sennin is probably best all time right now though. |
2011-12-18, 23:23 | Link #432 |
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I don't really remember the Killer Bee v. Kisame battle too well so I'm saying this purely based on my memories of their respective skills, but I think these three are a case of a situation where a tiered list really doesn't work. Kisame can defeat Killer Bee because he has Samehada to sap Chakra, and Gai can beat Kisame because he doesn't use Chakra (much). Gai however does not have a means of stopping Bee from using his cloak/Eight-Tailed Mode, and so I figure Bee can probably take Gai in a brute fight.
If Kisame had other abilities that put him above Killer Bee, or I'm just generally misremembering their overall abilities, feel free to let me know. |
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2011-12-19, 07:42 | Link #435 |
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@Akashi: Yes, that's pretty much it. Kisame is hard to classify because with Samehada, his strength grows with the chakra level of his opponent.
@itachi-san314: Even if that is chakra flowing around Gai, the power of his gates are not chakra based. If I remember it correctly, he just uses chakra as a gateway to enhance his physical power, or rather to set free his body's hidden physical power. And that is not something Kisame or Samehada can feed on.
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as for bee, i think he is overrated. he's awesome, don't get me wrong, i just think that gai is better, especially seeing as how bee lost to kisame and gai did so well against him. also theres no way bee is better than gai at taijutsu. i wouldnt put kakashi above naruto so apparently they are not similar instances |
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I never said bee was a better taijutsu shinobi than gai, however bee is damn good at it couple that with 8 tails chakra; that's a hard fight for gai to say the least.
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