2012-12-01, 22:15 | Link #443 |
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It's a surprising happy ending. But then you remember that this ends under the old, pre-Madoka system. It's still as happy as the situation allows though but it does make you wonder, if this even can work out post-Homura. I mean, it all begins with the original Kazumi dying after all...
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2012-12-01, 22:52 | Link #444 | |
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The witch system does allow for a proper happy and long life, it's just that the vast majority of Puella Magi screw up due to to overtly imbalanced wishes they can't bear the burden of. Kazumi only wished to be human, she is only interested in accomplishing a normal and enjoyable life so the brutal causality of the universe has no dellusional dreams to crush and turn into despair. The message of the series would be that to achieve happiness in the most difficult of settings, one needs to find the love of herself before considering the love for others. In other words, do what makes you happy intead of expecting happiness to come from helping the fortune of others. |
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2012-12-01, 23:38 | Link #446 |
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well that's cool, I'm actually happy for the girls who made it, they went through so much stuff so they deserve it.
But I can't think of this as a 100% happy ending, more like a bittersweet one. Yes, they did it, but Nico, Saki, Mirai, False Nico and big boobed girl died in the process. |
2012-12-01, 23:42 | Link #447 | |
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2012-12-01, 23:49 | Link #448 |
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So... Wait... What?
A happy ending? So if it was Post-Madoka, then Kanna Hijiri would find out about demons, go rage-mode over them (though to a lesser extent since Kazumi hadn't been created), so fuse the demons all together.. This is confusing.. |
2012-12-02, 05:53 | Link #452 | |
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Kazumi is the first of her kind: An artificial Puella Magi, and a Resurrected Puella Magi from a Witch. This is a glorious breakthrough for the Incubators. |
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2012-12-02, 07:41 | Link #453 | |
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2012-12-02, 07:50 | Link #454 | |
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2012-12-02, 12:33 | Link #455 |
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It does matter; remember from the perspective of the universe, things keep going in the original universe until Madoka modifies it. It's not a linear progression where the world stops existing that day; Madoka also has to extend to the far, far future to collect Puella Magi souls before she rewrites the cosmos.
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2012-12-02, 14:28 | Link #456 |
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But Madoka quote modify it, so how can it matter in the long run? And it's not even that things change "that day", as you can see at the end of the anime where even the past is changed. It's not like the universe needed this to happen in order to continue, so what relevance does it have?
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2012-12-02, 15:02 | Link #457 |
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Because Kazumi are her friends are the protagonists of the story, so it matters to them. It's relevant because they are people and what they go through matters. That's why Kyubey's callous disregard of human suffering is so monstrous.
Once you start disregarding the struggles of the Pleiades because it doesn't matter on a cosmic scale, you become Kyubey. A sociopath.
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2012-12-02, 15:49 | Link #458 |
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It's not even on a cosmic scale. It's on the story's scale. Once Madoka does her thing, this story doesn't happen. And whether this story happens or not does not in any way affect Madoka's story, so you can't even say that everything Homura did was meaningless as a counter argument.
And please, let's not start acting like fictional characters are real, and that disregarding them makes one a sociopath. |
2012-12-02, 17:43 | Link #459 |
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I'm just saying that disregarding the story's merits on the basis that it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of the fictional universe they exist in is wrong. They're our protagonists, so we need to measure the worth of their accomplishments in their own context. Their story will 'exist' within their own timeline. Madoka's ascension doesn't really effect them, temporally. And even when Madoka does overwrite their universe, she'll probably uplift Kazumi to her Magical Girl Valhalla, so that's still +1 soul reaped.
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