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FlareKnight · 2013-10-14, 17:20

That was a pretty good episode. Takao is certainly cute when she's not trying to annihilate them

. A nice tactic of holding back on destroying her apparently has Takao wanting a "human unit"

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A pretty fun episode that was over before I knew it. Certainly shows how you can win with superior tactics. They lucked out with Takao not hiding for an instant that she knew where to fire and being caught completely offguard by that last attack.

Random Wanderer · 2013-10-14, 17:26

So... he decided not to kill Takao when he saw she was a person rather than just a ship? Surely he already knew that. Or is it some chivalrous thing about not wanting to hurt a "girl?"

Not that I object to his decision, I'm just not sure I understand it.

blitz1/2 · 2013-10-14, 17:30

@Tenzen: Hyuuga was destroyed off screen, before ep 1 hence why Iona has that super cannon.

Tenzen12 · 2013-10-14, 17:32

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

So... he decided not to kill Takao when he saw she was a person rather than just a ship? Surely he already knew that. Or is it some chivalrous thing about not wanting to hurt a "girl?"

Not that I object to his decision, I'm just not sure I understand it.

Depending on what next episode adapt I might spoil it. Or I can do it through PM.

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@Tenzen: Hyuuga was destroyed off screen, before ep 1 hence why Iona has that super cannon.

I know, but light cruiser in first episode wasn't Nagoya (there is no such ww2 ship), but Nagara

FredFriendly · 2013-10-14, 17:36

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So... he decided not to kill Takao when he saw she was a person rather than just a ship? Surely he already knew that. Or is it some chivalrous thing about not wanting to hurt a "girl?"

Frankly, unless he has already formulated a master plan to render all of the ships submissive to him, it was tactically a big mistake. Not only is she still free to attempt to annihilate him and his ship again, but she is still free to patrol the waters and destroy other ships, killing more innocent humans.

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Not that I object to his decision, I'm just not sure I understand it.

I, too, don't really understand, but I also don't object to his decision. It leaves open the possibility of Takao trying to steal Gunzou away from Iona so she can have him for her own "human on board."

Myssa Rei · 2013-10-14, 18:11

Also there's a reason why Takao is so beloved by the fandom.

The cracks about a Tsundere Heavy Cruiser some of us have been doing over the last few days? It's a thing with this series.

As for Takao (Arpeggio) vs. Takao (Kantai), the latter will have to contend with Strike Witches S3 airing in the same general timeline so...

blitz1/2 · 2013-10-14, 19:35

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Originally Posted by Tenzen12

Depending on what next episode adapt I might spoil it. Or I can do it through PM.

I know, but light cruiser in first episode wasn't Nagoya (there is no such ww2 ship), but Nagara

Misspelled/typo.

00Zy99 · 2013-10-14, 19:47

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Also there's a reason why Takao is so beloved by the fandom.

The cracks about a Tsundere Heavy Cruiser some of us have been doing over the last few days? It's a thing with this series.

As for Takao (Arpeggio) vs. Takao (Kantai), the latter will have to contend with Strike Witches S3 airing in the same general timeline so...

What Kantai are we talking about here?

How is she related to Strike Witches S3 (which I am LOVING, btw)?

Random Wanderer · 2013-10-14, 20:11

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Strike Witches S3

...That was news to me.

AkitoW013 · 2013-10-14, 20:15

Spoiler for Episode 2:

Myssa Rei · 2013-10-14, 20:27

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What Kantai are we talking about here?

Kantai Collection, which also has IJN ship girls, but is a topic for another thread.

And to avoid confusion, the next Strike Witches thing only has rumblings so far, nothing definite.

Might have to re-read the first chapters again, but I remember Takao taken out by one of Iona's last two corrosion torpedoes, and NOT by Hyuuga's Grav Cannon.

Edit: My mistake, they DID use the Grav cannon, but only after the corrosive torpedoes were used.

Tranhieu · 2013-10-14, 21:02

Excellent episode! They really pulled it off this time by staying faithful to the manga, though some bits were left out but that didn't affect the overall quality in the end.

But now that the fight with Takao is done I'm wondering what they are gonna do with the rest 10 episodes. It's nice to see the anime getting sped up right at the beginning of the season but I'm slightly worried they're gonna stuff loads of filler for the rest of the series.

Spoiler for speculation:

Wild Goose · 2013-10-14, 21:09

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So... he decided not to kill Takao when he saw she was a person rather than just a ship? Surely he already knew that. Or is it some chivalrous thing about not wanting to hurt a "girl?"

Not that I object to his decision, I'm just not sure I understand it.

It is easier to destroy a ship, tank or fighter, because subconsciously you can rationalise that you're just destroying a thing, you're not killing people.

Killing another human being is significantly more difficult, because humans have an innate sense of not wanting to kill other people. Lt. Colonel Dave Grossman discusses this in his book On Killing, where he notes that military training as regards to killing serves to 1) desensitize the soldier to the act of killing, and 2) place safeguards (in the form of ROE and orders and other measures) to control and condition the soldier to kill when needed, and to not kill when not needed. (I'm paraphrasing, it's been a while since I read the book.) Essentially, akin to a safety on a firearm.

Grossman also put forward the hypothesis that modern media - tv, rap, music, literature, games - serves to further desensitize young people towards the idea of killing, without the training or safeguards that military training provides. Spec Ops: The Line lampshaded this: "To kill for yourself is murder. To kill for your government is heroic. To kill for entertainment is harmless.”

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Also, if there rest of the series was made up of Takao being Takao, I wouldn't really mind.

Tsundere Heavy Cruiser, Flagship of our hearts~ <3 <3 <3

Azuma Denton · 2013-10-14, 22:39

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

So... he decided not to kill Takao when he saw she was a person rather than just a ship? Surely he already knew that. Or is it some chivalrous thing about not wanting to hurt a "girl?"

Not that I object to his decision, I'm just not sure I understand it.

There is a reason why Gunzou target the submarine not Takao.
This is the omitted scene in anime. That scene is particularly that makes Takao interested in human (especially Gunzou)

LoweGear · 2013-10-14, 22:44

And thus we see the beginnings of the Tsundere Heavy Cruiser, And even in CGI, Takao is still quite lovely, especially when her Tsundere engine goes full power

Oh, and I guess the battle this episode was great too

Tim yy · 2013-10-14, 23:00

Woah...Supergravi cannon shattered Takao's Wave force armor so fast. I actually felt sorry for her when I saw it.
I didn't expect there will be a scene involving Kongo and Takao, look like Kongo-sama had to "fill-in" the "missing supreme flagship role" as well.

Episode was great, I'm actually ready and want to see some filler episodes before we see that Takao again ~with a hug pillow.

Myssa Rei · 2013-10-14, 23:08

Yeah, no Yamato makes me sad, as it just rubs in some changes manga-readers fear. Anime-only watchers though might be in for a treat though.

Triple_R · 2013-10-14, 23:34

Very nice naval warfare episode. I loved all the serious, thoughtful dialogue and military tactics on display. The action scenes/explosions also looked great in this episode.

However, I also found the decision to spare Takao a bit odd. If it's part of some master plan, that's fine, but I honestly hope it's not just a case of pure mercy.

dark998 · 2013-10-14, 23:35

Great episode, the skirmish against Takao is the first proper clash in the manga and as such it deserved the entire episode. Sanzigen really knows their 3D stuff because those sequences with the ships folding up and setting up weaponry are amazing, same with the graviton cannon effects.

Myssa Rei · 2013-10-14, 23:37

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However, I also found the decision to spare Takao a bit odd. If it's part of some master plan, that's fine, but I honestly hope it's not just a case of pure mercy.

It isn't the latter, but much of the context never made it to the anime sadly.

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FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	That was a pretty good episode. Takao is certainly cute when she's not trying to annihilate them . A nice tactic of holding back on destroying her apparently has Takao wanting a "human unit" . A pretty fun episode that was over before I knew it. Certainly shows how you can win with superior tactics. They lucked out with Takao not hiding for an instant that she knew where to fire and being caught completely offguard by that last attack. __________________ Anime-Evo

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Random Wanderer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007	So... he decided not to kill Takao when he saw she was a person rather than just a ship? Surely he already knew that. Or is it some chivalrous thing about not wanting to hurt a "girl?" Not that I object to his decision, I'm just not sure I understand it. __________________

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blitz1/2 Tenshi's Defense Squadron Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Fighting against those who oppress the system	@Tenzen: Hyuuga was destroyed off screen, before ep 1 hence why Iona has that super cannon. __________________ hai, hai. Onii-chan has his work cut out for him.

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Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Also there's a reason why Takao is so beloved by the fandom. The cracks about a Tsundere Heavy Cruiser some of us have been doing over the last few days? It's a thing with this series. As for Takao (Arpeggio) vs. Takao (Kantai), the latter will have to contend with Strike Witches S3 airing in the same general timeline so... __________________

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AkitoW013 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	Spoiler for Episode 2: It was pretty good, the first half was a little bit boring but I really liked the fight against Tsundere Heavy Cruiser with the Graviton Canon.

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Tranhieu Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013	Excellent episode! They really pulled it off this time by staying faithful to the manga, though some bits were left out but that didn't affect the overall quality in the end. But now that the fight with Takao is done I'm wondering what they are gonna do with the rest 10 episodes. It's nice to see the anime getting sped up right at the beginning of the season but I'm slightly worried they're gonna stuff loads of filler for the rest of the series. Spoiler for speculation: considering we won't get to see anything beyond the fight with Kirishima and Haruna.

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LoweGear Secret Society BLANKET Graphic Designer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: 3 times the passion of normal flamenco	And thus we see the beginnings of the Tsundere Heavy Cruiser, And even in CGI, Takao is still quite lovely, especially when her Tsundere engine goes full power Oh, and I guess the battle this episode was great too __________________ Against all the evil that hell can conjure, all wickedness that mankind can produce... We will send unto them, only you.

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Tim yy SS Abysmal Gale Join Date: Sep 2013	Woah...Supergravi cannon shattered Takao's Wave force armor so fast. I actually felt sorry for her when I saw it. I didn't expect there will be a scene involving Kongo and Takao, look like Kongo-sama had to "fill-in" the "missing supreme flagship role" as well. Episode was great, I'm actually ready and want to see some filler episodes before we see that Takao again ~with a hug pillow.

2013-10-14, 23:08	Link #477
Myssa Rei Moderate Haruhiist Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Metro Manila, Philippines Age: 42	Yeah, no Yamato makes me sad, as it just rubs in some changes manga-readers fear. Anime-only watchers though might be in for a treat though. __________________

2013-10-14, 23:34	Link #478
Triple_R Senior Member Author Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Age: 42	Very nice naval warfare episode. I loved all the serious, thoughtful dialogue and military tactics on display. The action scenes/explosions also looked great in this episode. However, I also found the decision to spare Takao a bit odd. If it's part of some master plan, that's fine, but I honestly hope it's not just a case of pure mercy. __________________

2013-10-14, 23:35	Link #479
dark998 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	Great episode, the skirmish against Takao is the first proper clash in the manga and as such it deserved the entire episode. Sanzigen really knows their 3D stuff because those sequences with the ships folding up and setting up weaponry are amazing, same with the graviton cannon effects.