I was referring in the LN. Mordred and Jeanne were bickering while fighting Adam. I was asking if there were other times in the LN that they would converse or argue.
yeah
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I want to know who killed Vlad and Darnic.
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Vlad was killed by Shirou and Darnic was killed by Vlad
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I'm interested in how the second Jack the Ripper fight went. Who was involve besides Jeanne? Was Jack smart NOT to underestimate Jeanne as Ruler?
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Atalanta
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I just found out that Achilles killed Archer of Red? Is that true?
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Yeah, Atalanta was killed by Achilles after she was going mad due to Jack and Achilles was killed by Atalanta, it was a double kill.
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Also what happened to Caules, Fione and Astolfo at the end of Vol 5?
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Astolfo survives, Caules joins Waver's class in Clock Tower and Fiore hands over family magic crest to Caules, gives up being a mage.
Looking into the show/story going forward I was wondering about something and how its gonna shake out.
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Celenike (Astolfo's master) Hates Sieg. If im interpreting this correctly she shows up and uses command seals to make Astolfo kill Sieg, However before she can use her last one Mordred shows up and lops off her head? After this it appears that Sieg forms a contract with Astolfo and thus makes Sieg and Astolfo servant and master? Is that right?
Ok, finished reading the 5 vol of F/A and here's my 2 cents:
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As far as Fate series went, this one tries to beef up for its glaring plot holes with some severe action. You will understand what I mean if you figure that the entire Vol 2 and 3 is dedicated to action alone with scarcely any character development in those two. But hey, considering that there're 14 Servants and 14 Masters, there should be far more storytelling right? The author practically killed off half of those Masters though in favor of the other half. Then Vol 4 is almost completely dedicated to the maverick of the Black Camp: Jack which everyone loves, I mean who won't love a gender-bent enigmatic assassin from UK's dirty industrial age, right?
Here's the issue with it: Neither Jack nor her Master hardly has any characterization at all other than their psychotic rampage. This is NOT an attempt to downplay her character design and "coolness" as any random otaku fanboy would take up arms to defend, rather a critique on the author's laziness in trying to make us feel for the character - Jack is NOT a single person, but the ghosts of a bunch of aborted babies killed and combined into a supernatural monster. While you can feel pity for a kid for what he/she goes through, aborted children are something beyond what a normal human would care about. Hey, if you consider an unborn fetus as human and has a soul, what about a fertilized egg - the argument goes too deep for any average otaku or fanboy/gal would bother anyway. And this is not helped by the fact that her Master, Reisu, had next to zero background other than being a piano-playing prostitute who had been chosen by one of the Black Camp's Masters as conduit to summon Jack. Cardboard characters for an enemy that is supposed to be a thorn in the sides of both camps and yet worth enough to last 3.5 Volumes. But that is still not as bad as Spartacus.
Just how did the Black Camp manage to turn Spartacus into one of their own if he was some Hulk or abomination right out of Resident Evil? No matter which version you got, Spartacus got his legs removed by our 'trap' of Agila, and then skewered by Vlad before getting wrapped up in some shape-shifting golem by Caster. Wait a minute... doesn't getting skewered wound him? Why doesn't his regeneration activate like during the war and grow into Hulk? I mean, when Atalanta blew off his entire body and even the head, he regenerated just like that and became Godzilla. Some people might say that 'oh, he had something up his sleeve and only got to use it now.' But that wasn't how the story told it: In fact, his wounds during his first clash with the Black Camp had been regenerating already. Huh, that was some pretty bad storytelling to trigger a Hulk flag just when the plot demands.
Which brings me to the LEAST developed character in F/A: Siegfried. Yes, the ultra-cool looking Saber of Black that died in Vol 1 to give Sieg his second life. If you are to just watch all the fanfare about that muscular hero from Germany that arguably got modeled after the one from Soul Caliber, you would have thought that he is the main character. Nope, dead after Volume 1, and no reason given either. At least they gave him more lines in the anime... but after that the story went great length to show that Sieg is not Siegfried, not even during his possession of 3 minutes, or Karna would have beaten him. To compare this development, you go to an Apple Store to get a slick-looking iMac, then you go back and found that it is not capable of running your PC games, so you begin to throw out the insides of the iMac and stuffing it with an IBM. The author seemed to have realized after half of volume 1 that he had bitten far more than he could chew and decide to merge one of the most popular character with the one with the most potential for character development a nameless homunculus.
I can go on about the series, but I'm sure this had been on the mind of those who have read it as well. On the whole, I don't really recommend it except to die-hard Fate fans because it is essentially glorified fanfiction from the Nasuverse.
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kind of pissed of that they cut the "sieg want to impregnate jeane scene"...
And the part about Jeanne embarrassed to death to sleep with Sieg at the same room was not included, too. Sieg x Jeanne relationship seems underdeveloped in the anime.