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Yu Ominae · 2008-10-10, 04:22

Which volume does that happen in? ^_^

DarkLordOfkichiku · 2008-10-13, 15:49

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Originally Posted by Yu Ominae

Which volume does that happen in? ^_^

Volume 19. It rather troubles Senkawa too

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Spoiler for Volume 19:

It also happens in volume 20 as well, much to Senkawa's dismay

Spoiler for Volume 20:

Oh yeah, also... "Tetsuwan Birdy" has now offically ended with volume 20! However, it'll be followed up by "Birdy the Mighty - Evolution" in with Senkawa and Birdy's adventures continues...

Yu Ominae · 2008-10-13, 17:29

Ah...

Shame it's that short. XP

DarkLordOfkichiku · 2008-10-14, 18:20

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Originally Posted by Yu Ominae

Shame it's that short. XP

Which, Senkawa's dream(s) or the manga itself?

Yu Ominae · 2008-10-14, 19:02

The former. I want MOOOARRRR!!!!

DarkLordOfkichiku · 2008-10-15, 02:44

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The former. I want MOOOARRRR!!!!

. Well, the scenes are a bit longe rin thre manga - and additionally, since Tetsuwan Birdy is a seinen manga, it does also mean we have quite a few "mature" situations to boot (if it's smut or the like you want, well, then there's aplenty of nakedness for one thing - Birdy seems to have little to no shyness as far as such thigns are concerned

- and plenty other situations too <_<).

Guardian Enzo · 2008-10-15, 10:35

Yeah, I'd like to see this topic explored more in the anime, too. After all, it must be more than a little embarrassing for Senkawa to have a busty girl inside his body, privy to all of the "private" thoughts and drives someone in his age group would naturally have. The material seems to strike just the right tonal balance between seriousness and humor that it would take these issues on most entertainingly.

Deathkillz · 2008-10-15, 10:53

Normally you would think that, right?

But Senkawa isn't a normal person

I can't believe how he didn't one think (in the anime) about his current situation...being trapped inside a beauty like Birdy...I would die from bloodloss if she looked into the mirror naked...yet we never had any scenes like that with Senkawa showing at least some interest...

Pathetic ne?

Guardian Enzo · 2008-10-15, 21:09

I prefer to think those thoughts were thunk (Senkawa struck me as an endearingly normal kid in most other ways) and just never made it onto the screen...

DarkLordOfkichiku · 2008-10-15, 23:06

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Yeah, I'd like to see this topic explored more in the anime, too. After all, it must be more than a little embarrassing for Senkawa to have a busty girl inside his body, privy to all of the "private" thoughts and drives someone in his age group would naturally have.

Haha, you bet it is

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Spoiler for embarrasing -'morning rise':

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

The material seems to strike just the right tonal balance between seriousness and humor that it would take these issues on most entertainingly.

Indeed!

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Originally Posted by Deathkillz

Normally you would think that, right?

But Senkawa isn't a normal person
I can't believe how he didn't one think (in the anime) about his current situation...being trapped inside a beauty like Birdy...I would die from bloodloss if she looked into the mirror naked...yet we never had any scenes like that with Senkawa showing at least some interest...

Pathetic ne?

Haha, well, the manga does tackle the issuse though:
- Senkawa is often enough terribly embarrased at the times he and Birdy takes a bath and especially when he's looking into the mirror there because he knows that doing so means that Birdy can see him nude

- likewise, he gets sorta flustered when it's Birdy that takes control in the bath (which she often does, considering the foundness she develops for bathing), because then he can see her nude, especially whens he looks into a mirror

- and of coruse it also leads to a few humorous situations, like the fact that when Birdy enters the women's bath, it means that he can see everything she sees, making him quite flustered as well (and Birdy having no idea of why he's flustered!)

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And so on, though I'd say that the dreams are the best indication of interest on his part through. As far as his "lack of interest" goes, maybe one could explain it with the fact that he has not yet entered puberty? Or perhaps he's just suffering from a case of a bit of a late sexual awakening?

Yu Ominae · 2008-10-15, 23:07

Someone oughta do a fanfic based on that. XP

Guardian Enzo · 2008-10-15, 23:16

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Originally Posted by DarkLordOfkichiku

Haha, well, the manga does tackle the issuse though:
- Senkawa is often enough terribly embarrased at the times he and Birdy takes a bath and especially when he's looking into the mirror there because he knows that doing so means that Birdy can see him nude

- likewise, he gets sorta flustered when it's Birdy that takes control in the bath (which she often does, considering the foundness she develops for bathing), because then he can see her nude, especially whens he looks into a mirror

- and of coruse it also leads to a few humorous situations, like the fact that when Birdy enters the women's bath, it means that he can see everything she sees, making him quite flustered as well (and Birdy having no idea of why he's flustered!)

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And so on, though I'd say that the dreams are the best indication of interest on his part through. As far as his "lack of interest" goes, maybe one could explain it with the fact that he has not yet entered puberty? Or perhaps he's just suffering from a case of a bit of a late sexual awakening?

Well, Senkawa is supposed to about 16, isn't he? That would be one seriously delayed sexual awakening. I think the scenes you quoted from the manga show that this isn't the case - it's just a subject the anime decided to leave off the table, at least for now. Kinda like Senkawa's freckles - who knew?

DarkLordOfkichiku · 2008-10-15, 23:49

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Originally Posted by Yu Ominae

Someone oughta do a fanfic based on that. XP

I'm sure that someone in Japan have already made a doujin or the like based on it, or a picture or two at least

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Originally Posted by Guardian Enzo

Well, Senkawa is supposed to about 16, isn't he? That would be one seriously delayed sexual awakening.

Oh, I dunno, I've hard of cases where the person in question didn't sexually awaken before around 30 something. It has to sorta to do with what you're focusing on in life, sorta; with more people these days focusing on studying and making carrers and other stuff, late sexual awakenings are becoming more usual - or so I hear

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I think the scenes you quoted from the manga show that this isn't the case - it's just a subject the anime decided to leave off the table, at least for now. Kinda like Senkawa's freckles - who knew?

Well, anyone who has read the manga

. But I get your point. And you're probably right...

orion · 2008-10-16, 09:15

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Originally Posted by DarkLordOfkichiku

Oh, I dunno, I've hard of cases where the person in question didn't sexually awaken before around 30 something. It has to sorta to do with what you're focusing on in life, sorta; with more people these days focusing on studying and making carrers and other stuff, late sexual awakenings are becoming more usual - or so I hear

Uh, I wouldn't believe that one period. Puberty and all that happens with it occurs at the appropriate age if you are physiologically normal. There are no hints in this anime that Senkawa is abnormal. The anime is just choosing not to dwell on topics that can be found in romantic comedies and not action titles.

Guardian Enzo · 2008-10-16, 13:09

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Uh, I wouldn't believe that one period. Puberty and all that happens with it occurs at the appropriate age if you are physiologically normal. There are no hints in this anime that Senkawa is abnormal. The anime is just choosing not to dwell on topics that can be found in romantic comedies and not action titles.

I believe you're correct about the anime, but I think it's a missed opportunity for two big reasons. First, the relationship between Birdy and Senkawa is a legitimately interesting one. She teases him in a sort of big-sisterly way, but there's a genuine affection and protectiveness there - what started out as feelings of guilt for her obviously grew into something much more real. There's also an underlying whiff of sexual tension. Those things combined make for an interesting whole.

Second, the massive under-utilization of the shared body concept in the anime. When you strip away the more conventional aspects of the series, that concept is the main dramatic driver of the story - the convention that sets it apart. Not touching on the obvious emotional complications of that experience ignores much of the possibility that could be mined from the premise. Clearly, the manga doesn't make this mistake. I'm not saying this should be a drowsy slice-of-life comedy - I like all the action just fine. But adding the emotional and even romantic entanglements inherent in the premise to the final product would take the anime to another level. Hopefully we'll see more of that in season two.

DarkLordOfkichiku · 2008-10-17, 22:54

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I believe you're correct about the anime, but I think it's a missed opportunity for two big reasons. First, the relationship between Birdy and Senkawa is a legitimately interesting one. She teases him in a sort of big-sisterly way, but there's a genuine affection and protectiveness there - what started out as feelings of guilt for her obviously grew into something much more real. There's also an underlying whiff of sexual tension. Those things combined make for an interesting whole.

Second, the massive under-utilization of the shared body concept in the anime. When you strip away the more conventional aspects of the series, that concept is the main dramatic driver of the story - the convention that sets it apart. Not touching on the obvious emotional complications of that experience ignores much of the possibility that could be mined from the premise. Clearly, the manga doesn't make this mistake. I'm not saying this should be a drowsy slice-of-life comedy - I like all the action just fine. But adding the emotional and even romantic entanglements inherent in the premise to the final product would take the anime to another level. Hopefully we'll see more of that in season two.

Well, even in the manga, the main focus is action (no volume goes by without Birdy getting into one fight or another - and if it's not her doing the fightnig then someone else

), but indeed, the anime choose to not focus a lot on their relationship and the circumstaqnces around it, instead focusing on the whole Ryunka-plot of theirs <_<. Ah well, maybe they'll do a better job of focusing on thir relationship and it's circumstances (etc) in the next season indeed, althrough I have my doubts abut them being able to do that

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Ah well... I do rather like one thing about the anime though: so far in the manga, Senkawa hasn't gotten to visit Birdy's homeplanet like he did in episode 4-5 - so far all we have seen so far of her homeplanet is mostly in the chapters concering Birdy's past as well as in those instances where Megius and Skeletsu becomes the focus of the story (mostly because they're discussing Birdy of course).

Keroko · 2008-12-15, 17:10

Sooo, with the new season expected to come January, what are peoples expectations? I'm personally hoping for more nice action scenes, and development in the Tsutomu/Birdy corner. Also, I'd like to know just what is up with Birdy's past.

Guardian Enzo · 2008-12-15, 17:39

My main hope is that we see more of the awkwardness/intimacy of the shared body concept - as there is in the manga.

Shiroth · 2008-12-15, 17:41

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Also, I'd like to know just what is up with Birdy's past.

If we don't see a third season, then i'm pretty sure that will be covered in the second season. Very sure.

As for what i want to see, i'm with Guardian Enzo --- along with some nice action scenes. We had a few decent ones in the first, more like that please.

evil-samurai · 2008-12-23, 10:01

The series on a whole was alright, boring & frustrating sometimes and other times I simply loved it. Animation was top-notch, it had its up and downs but overall the fight scenes with Birdy Awesome!!

Personally I thought they gave way too much to to Nakasugi, considering she isn't even going to show up in Season 2 (I guess) You'd think the time would be better off developing the Birdy and Senkawa side of things. The didn't really give it as much time as it should of had. So I'm hoping that season 2 will show more interaction between the two main characters. Cant say I had much love for Senkawa, though he played the role of a 'average guy' he annoyed me a bit, with a little bit too much complaining, though that did seem to disappear a bit more into the series. I liked how Shyamalan played the apparently normal but twisted nut job, it worked well.

Birdy was the hook of the show for me as I'm sure it was with many other people. Birdy made the show, it wasn't just with fight scenes, her whole personality and plot related scenes were a bright light in the show. Every time they had the show more focused on Birdy, it kick As*! loking forwad to more of her next season.

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Guardian Enzo Seishu's Ace Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kobe, Japan	Yeah, I'd like to see this topic explored more in the anime, too. After all, it must be more than a little embarrassing for Senkawa to have a busty girl inside his body, privy to all of the "private" thoughts and drives someone in his age group would naturally have. The material seems to strike just the right tonal balance between seriousness and humor that it would take these issues on most entertainingly.

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Guardian Enzo Seishu's Ace Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kobe, Japan	I prefer to think those thoughts were thunk (Senkawa struck me as an endearingly normal kid in most other ways) and just never made it onto the screen...

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Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Sooo, with the new season expected to come January, what are peoples expectations? I'm personally hoping for more nice action scenes, and development in the Tsutomu/Birdy corner. Also, I'd like to know just what is up with Birdy's past.

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Guardian Enzo Seishu's Ace Author Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Kobe, Japan	My main hope is that we see more of the awkwardness/intimacy of the shared body concept - as there is in the manga.

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evil-samurai ...... Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 37	The series on a whole was alright, boring & frustrating sometimes and other times I simply loved it. Animation was top-notch, it had its up and downs but overall the fight scenes with Birdy Awesome!! Personally I thought they gave way too much to to Nakasugi, considering she isn't even going to show up in Season 2 (I guess) You'd think the time would be better off developing the Birdy and Senkawa side of things. The didn't really give it as much time as it should of had. So I'm hoping that season 2 will show more interaction between the two main characters. Cant say I had much love for Senkawa, though he played the role of a 'average guy' he annoyed me a bit, with a little bit too much complaining, though that did seem to disappear a bit more into the series. I liked how Shyamalan played the apparently normal but twisted nut job, it worked well. Birdy was the hook of the show for me as I'm sure it was with many other people. Birdy made the show, it wasn't just with fight scenes, her whole personality and plot related scenes were a bright light in the show. Every time they had the show more focused on Birdy, it kick As*! loking forwad to more of her next season.