2009-12-14, 12:49 | Link #5021 | |
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2009-12-14, 12:54 | Link #5022 | |
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I'll add that some americans should also start to wonder why some things obama is doing is popular aboard. I don't say they should decide things based on that, but at least to think about it instead of believing whatever lies some american medias can put in their mouth (like lying about how healthcare works in some other countries like France. IIRC, a member wrote about it, how some medias lie about how it works in europe). |
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2009-12-14, 12:57 | Link #5023 | ||
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2009-12-14, 13:26 | Link #5025 | |
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Malaysia and Singapore are not really having sensitive borders anymore, unless you count the idiots always trying to stir up trouble over the water, crab, separation, Malay-vs-Chinese/racism, etc small issues. Many of the locals on both sides are mongrels or descended from immigrants, so I don't see much difference between the races. The separation issue is long gone, and so is the bumiputera issue which many youths, even Malays, on both sides tout as a "hegemony of a long gone era". A good sense of maturity has developed, for example, the F-16 Singapore sent to a Malaysian airshow, in which the latter government simply told off the outcry of a "Singaporean show-off" with a simple "nobody is trying to start a war here". We may keep our Guardsmen and Renjas on 24/7 standbys to massacre the opposition, but the need for the military solution is microscopic. I won't rule out the possibility of such happening, but there is little chance of that if everyone wants the region to prosper as a whole. While the Arctic ice caps haven't fully melted, SEA will be an important sea route to the rest of the world. Start a war here, and the whole world economy ceases to function. You are right about the rest though, but you forgot to add Taiwan to the list of borders China is threatening. NK and SK, I can't wait for them to duke it out somewhere in the next decade, the war has been held on for a little too long.
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2009-12-14, 14:01 | Link #5026 | ||
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Even if you want to believe that Bush was not directly responsible for the attacks, he was still responsible in a way because he had received all sorts of warnings and threats from Bin Laden that they were going to attack him in some way. Bush didn't do anything to stop them. And that's because, as I said, Bush needed a catalyst to divert the hatred away from himself. He needed a scapegoat. The media was his tool, and his used it to his advantage, not to mention he had the military support begotten from being a Republican. Despite the misgivings foreigners had toward Bush, US media supported him and provided people with a diversion. And don't get me wrong, there were quite a few people in the US against Bush. My old history teacher in France has a friend in Texas who actually saw a road sign poiting toward "Bush Street" and someone spray-painted the word "dictator" before Bush to make it look like "Dictator Bush Street," so it's not as if Bush had undivided support in the US. Last edited by Tsuyoshi; 2009-12-14 at 14:12. |
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2009-12-14, 14:18 | Link #5027 | |
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2009-12-14, 17:51 | Link #5028 |
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Just saw the Berlusconi video . Though Berlusconi is pure scum who is making mockery of office . Beating up a 73 year old man is going to far IMO . Regardless of personality, age should be taken as a factor . Personally think a Pie on the Face was more suited . Violence towards seniors or weak always gets me squeamish . He deserved the humiliation but not the brutality
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2009-12-14, 20:51 | Link #5029 | ||
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Second off, I have in the past linked you a point by point refutation of 9-11 conspiracy claims n this very thread. I'm not going to do that again, since obviously it didn't convince you. What I am going to do is ask you to think about what a conspiracy like that would involve. Think abut the number of low level people that would have to be involved to successfully pull off such a thing. Now, do you honestly believe that out of the hundreds of people who would need to be involved, not one of them has had second thoughts about it and blew the whistle? Quote:
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2009-12-15, 03:52 | Link #5031 | |
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2009-12-15, 06:30 | Link #5032 | ||
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Also, in America, the ratings were not that bad, I know that. We're referring to Europe and possibly other places more than anything. Bush wanted to obtain more support and decided to provide the people with a common enemy. Last edited by Tsuyoshi; 2009-12-15 at 06:41. |
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2009-12-15, 08:01 | Link #5033 | ||
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That's not really about oil then though, is it? It's about political power in the region. However, if the US wanted to go into Afghanistan they really didn't need a 9-11. The Taliban were providing enough of a reason for foreign intervention on their own, considering they were perhaps the single most oppressive regime on the planet at the time.
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Also, that vid you showed me in no way reflects what happened in either the Twin Towers or The Pentagon. It proves a plane can disintegrate on impact, but are you trying to tell me the concrete walls of the Pentagon or more importantly a random clearing in a forest are as tough and durable as a concrete wall of a nuclear power station? Sorry, but that vid doesn't prove anything to me. Quote:
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2009-12-15, 08:59 | Link #5035 | |
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The present-day US really seems to be two separate countries culturally speaking. Of course,that's ignoring the enormous misinformation and manipulation machines of the power interests.
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2009-12-15, 09:07 | Link #5036 | |
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2009-12-15, 11:13 | Link #5037 | |
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If this goes on, it will be the 21st century's American Civil War.
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2009-12-15, 12:57 | Link #5038 | |
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Could it happen again to see a part of america starting a fight against the other half? There are some things that could play against that though imo. If for example, the USA are threatened by terrorists (again) or by another country, I can see all the americans fighting together against it under the same flag. That's the kind of situations that can make people remember that they are all americans and can work together. |
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2009-12-15, 14:31 | Link #5039 | |
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2. he should have finish the job before calling the police 3. what happen to being able to defend his life, family and property against vicious criminals?
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2009-12-15, 14:52 | Link #5040 | |
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Being a New Yorker, your conspiracy theory is extremely offensive, to say the least. |
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