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2011-12-26, 03:56 | Link #5187 | |
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But there's a hint that he was taking about the "Epitapt murder game". He showed us that the first twilight victim was faking their deaths and Ep6 gameboard was the only game that explicitly told us that the first twilight murder was fake. |
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2011-12-26, 04:00 | Link #5188 |
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Well, they're all "Beatrice's game" because she created the gameboard and the rules and the setting and the story. It's like how Dungeons and Dragons is "Gary Gygax's game" even though he doesn't personally run every game session played across the world.
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2011-12-26, 04:18 | Link #5189 | |
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Wait.. i think were on the same page here. |
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2011-12-26, 04:23 | Link #5190 |
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IS it the focal point? We can't honestly say that for sure.
Anyway, the point isn't about the CONTENT so much about the construction and execution. Battler isn't demonstrating he knows the truth, here (how could he, when he's running a game with Erika in it?) he's running a game from Beatrice's point of view to demonstrate that he understands HER and how her game works. That's more important.
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2012-01-10, 19:20 | Link #5194 |
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Yeah. I understand the theory with the window, but Kanon wasn't even in that room. And despite that, Beatrice's logic not only allows Kanon to leave the room in the guesthouse, but to also free Battler and then escape himself, leaving no one in the room. The door must be used in some way, in order to escape. There should be no method of getting around that... And yet, the chain lock absolutely must be set, and it must be set from the inside. And there's no one in the room?
Are they busting holes in the walls, or what? Technically, I think that would bypass the duct tape seals, but... |
2012-01-10, 20:34 | Link #5197 |
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But the thing that was actually forbidden was "the use of blue truths involving the window." Beato cleverly got around it by creating a mystery to reverse the burden of proof, so that it became Erika's responsibility to create blue truths instead of hers.
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2012-01-10, 21:49 | Link #5198 |
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I could try and argue against this by saying that all people can only use their own names, but there's the possibility that "people" there doesn't refer to bodies but rather to personalities. At a glance, I don't think there's a red that denies that... And while I had thought that Beato actually denied the possibility of anyone being in the room after all is said and done, she only denied the possibility that Kanon is inside...
Not only that, but since it's a fact that Kanon went in, let Battler out, and set the chain lock behind him, he could not physically leave the room (the red that Beato used prevented anyone else from entering or leaving the room)... So it simply has to be referring to personalities, as far as I can tell. And it wasn't said in red that Kanon is actually in the cousins' room in the guesthouse, only that "everyone else" is. How tricky. ...I had been hoping for a more satisfying answer, but this is acceptable. One last thing though. The hint "without love, it cannot be seen" was supposed to refer to this solution, but how does that work? I don't see anything here that refers to love... |
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