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View Poll Results: To Aru Majutsu no Index LN - New Testament Volume 14 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 16 | 28.57% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 8 | 14.29% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 15 | 26.79% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 9 | 16.07% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 4 | 7.14% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 3.57% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 1.79% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 1.79% | |
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2015-11-15, 23:17 | Link #523 |
お姉さん☆
Join Date: Jul 2013
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This was a walk and clash of ideals between normal high school boys you find anywhere and it was great.
That's the best part about it. You can sit on either side here or in the middle and they personally don't realize things about themselves. |
2015-11-15, 23:43 | Link #524 |
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Kamisato believes he is inadequate and is very cynical + negative, he believes that his harem was formed by his right hand and the magic gods and is seeking to liberate the harem by getting rid of the power. 'These girls who have stopped talking to me have suddenly started to love me after I got this power? It's the power they like, not me.' He doesn't consider the possibility of romance or admiration because he doesn't believe he's worthy and instead thinks of it as a cruel joke.
Kamijou however thinks of it differently. What if the girls really like Kamisato but couldn't say it? He was just selfishly putting his view of things and accepting it as a reality. He looks at things too negatively and does not look at things in a more positive light because he is afraid. Kamisato has put himself in his own Illusion that he is not deserving of such things and that it can't possibly happen to him. Give a cookie to Kamachi |
2015-11-15, 23:48 | Link #525 | |
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2015-11-15, 23:55 | Link #526 |
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: America
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Kamisato really is fulfilling his role as Touma's foil. He is quite cynical but he still made some fair points. However so did Touma. Honestly you can take either side here or be neutral and you can end being both right and wrong. I was looking forward to this talk and it didn't disappoint.
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2015-11-16, 00:48 | Link #527 | |
No time to sleep, 不幸だ
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Chapter 3: The Girls’ Desires and Their Intersection – Winner’s_“APPLE”.
A full chapter at once this time~
Let's do dis! Oh my Niang-Niang. A lot was going on here. Let me just collect my thoughts. First, I have to say that there is a lot of validity in Kakeru's points. While some of it developed due to a lack of maturity and experience, it's hard to deny his feelings. For example, he had already done a Beta World though experiment in his own mind and come to a different conclusion than Kamijou. In a way, that demonstrates the difference between these two. However, something I noticed is that Kakeru stands where Kamijou stood at the beginning of Volume 1 before he met Index. The biggest evidence to that is this. Quote:
Now then, onto another thing. Aleister. Something New Testament has been doing a lot lately is humanizing him, showing him to be more than just the guy who says keikaku doori. He has his soft spots. He has his idiosyncrasies. Even though he either stands as the amalgamation of all possibilities of humanity or as someone who has rejected his humanity, he still manages to let that show in multiple ways and even confides in Noukan. As for Noukan...I hope these Death Flags don't come to pass. And as for NephNeph, I'm warming up to her character.
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2015-11-16, 00:56 | Link #528 |
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Was anyone else thinkng of this?https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MTdrLC3nqhw
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2015-11-16, 00:56 | Link #529 |
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it's great!!!, kamisato is the foil character that i hope, all of this talk and their view toward the fate of the holder and the people who affected by their fate is always interesting, like other has pointed out, kamisato trapped himself own his limitation where his view is completely opposite of touma's look on his live, where it more in negative's light.
i hope some distinctive quality between them, and this one the first step the i want to see, good job kamachi!!! now, from this chapter, i can know that kamachi try to strengthening touma's character again in the future, i can agree with all cynical statement that kamisato blurt out but i am always more in half full's type like kamijou touma's, so i am, of course, more comfortable with touma's way of look to his live. kamachi really know how to use a trope in unique way, i always applaud that and kamisato's harem is as ridiculously eccentric in term of fashion. it's just me or kamisato really fit our frustation toward generic MC this days?, or maybe it's just some piece of thought from kamachi himself.
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2015-11-16, 01:02 | Link #530 | ||
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2015-11-16, 01:05 | Link #531 |
Index III was a mistake
Join Date: Jul 2013
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Welp, Hiss said practically everything I was thinking about this entire confrontation.
But damn that was intense. I only have one question. If WR only appeared in December, what was that change that occurred in Kamisato at the beginning of November that he noticed and began to change his everyday life? If he didn't have WR and wasn't fighting anyone until the Magic Gods appeared, how did he manage to gather a harem of that size?
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2015-11-16, 01:14 | Link #532 | |
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2015-11-16, 01:21 | Link #533 |
Index III was a mistake
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Doesn't quite answer anything but it remains a point that has been mostly overlooked up until now. Heck, it might be a potential answer.
What has Laura been up to for the past month? How did she know about Kamisato before Aleister did when it didn't seem like she knew about Kamijou beforehand?
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2015-11-16, 01:25 | Link #534 | |
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Hell, I'm lurking at /a/ and they're speculating that Kamisato's life was completely fabricated by Laura, down to the very members of his harem. Given how she oversaw Index's life, it's not that farfetched.
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2015-11-16, 01:30 | Link #535 |
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I still have my reservations of saying Laura is directly behind Kakeru or involved outside of simple monitoring like Aleister. Though her knowing beforehand even the Magic Gods(?) is interesting in regards to what the heck she is.
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2015-11-16, 01:32 | Link #536 | |
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Anyways I think Kamisato needs a healthy dose of vitamin IB.
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2015-11-16, 01:37 | Link #537 | ||
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In fact, him getting WR in December makes more sense when you back to the reason he got it in the first place. At the beginning of November, Kamijou began focusing on Gremlin and Othinus. That began the whole process of the Magic Gods becoming jealous of all the attention Othinus was getting. Only by the end of the month after the eternal hell of NT9, the elopement to Denmark and Aleister dragging the Magic Gods out of their dimension did that jealousy reach a breaking point that resulted in WR awakening.
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2015-11-16, 01:58 | Link #538 | |
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2015-11-16, 02:14 | Link #540 | |
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Secondly, assuming he did get WR in November then that contradicts even more things. The whole reason about why WR even exists is due to the Magic Gods' jealousy of Othinus and that's something that came to a head only very recently. I'm sure the Magic Gods wishes wasn't a sudden thing but something that slowly changed over the course of a month as Kamijou paid more attention to Othinus' actions. NT9/NT10 was the straw that broke the camel's back in a way. My hypothesis is that, while the Magic Gods' jealousy grew, "power" slowly went into Kamisato's right hand. The power influenced his life in some way but still wasn't something that could be called WR. Only after Kamijou spent so much time with Othinus in NT9-NT10, the jealousy of the magic gods became so apparent that even someone like St. Germain could point it out and that power that going into Kamisato's right hand finally manifested itself as WR.
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