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Old 2018-12-26, 17:06   Link #5621
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Since the next volume is Kyoto and the following will be Vali vs Sun Wukong I'm guessing volume 6 at earliest
Is that confirmed or are we just guessing?

@TheWu8128 I really don't see Issei and Vali fighting unless It's the absolute end of the series. So unless the final match in the Azazel Cup is going to be the absolute end which I don't think it will be as I don't see it stretching out that long. With Hades and his Legion of Doom and Gloom, the devils he created using Lilith, possibly the Malebranche, and Melvazoa's older brother arriving, it just seems like this tournament isn't going to be the end. And Kiba's is Issei's best friend, not his subordinate.

I see the person who wins the Azazel Cup as the one that defeats the Two Heavenly Dragons. So in my view that's either going to be Indra, Diehauser, or Dulio.

@godz Irina should have got Ame-no-Murakumo-no-Tsurugi. I'm still getting on Ishibumi about that.
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Old 2018-12-26, 17:23   Link #5622
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It's suppose to be 1 match then 1 non match in order and Vali and Issei's fights are the only ones he's going to cover in detail. Kyotos next so then it's Vali vs Sun Wukong, then it's a non fight volume then it's Issei vs Diehauser that would put it in volume 6.
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Old 2018-12-26, 17:31   Link #5623
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It's suppose to be 1 match then 1 non match in order and Vali and Issei's fights are the only ones he's going to cover in detail. Kyotos next so then it's Vali vs Sun Wukong, then it's a non fight volume then it's Issei vs Diehauser that would put it in volume 6.
But again do we have any confirmation on that? Issei's the MC of the series so he has to be focused on in every volume. Even if It's going to be Vali vs Sun Wukong, Issei is going to be doing something then Vali's match will be covered.
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Old 2018-12-26, 17:33   Link #5624
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I suppose your raise a good point but until we see Vali's match I'm going to assume that Issei vs Diehauser won't be until volume 6.
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Old 2018-12-26, 20:02   Link #5625
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Impossible. Ingvidl is worth 7 pawns, too powerful for a rock. And I doubt Gasper could be a bishop since in Rias' team is normal since he is a mutation piece, but he is a longinus wielder so I doubt that in another team he could be just a bishop, especially considering the fact that his longinus is probably a high-tier since overpowered easily dimension lost.
In vol25, rose played as bishop while in dx4 as pawn 4pieces.
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Old 2018-12-26, 23:42   Link #5626
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Is that confirmed or are we just guessing?

@TheWu8128 I really don't see Issei and Vali fighting unless It's the absolute end of the series. So unless the final match in the Azazel Cup is going to be the absolute end which I don't think it will be as I don't see it stretching out that long. With Hades and his Legion of Doom and Gloom, the devils he created using Lilith, possibly the Malebranche, and Melvazoa's older brother arriving, it just seems like this tournament isn't going to be the end. And Kiba's is Issei's best friend, not his subordinate.

I see the person who wins the Azazel Cup as the one that defeats the Two Heavenly Dragons. So in my view that's either going to be Indra, Diehauser, or Dulio.

@godz Irina should have got Ame-no-Murakumo-no-Tsurugi. I'm still getting on Ishibumi about that.
When did I say Kiba was Issei subordinate? What are you evening talking about? And I don't care about your predictions so you can keep them to yourself.
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Old 2018-12-27, 04:42   Link #5627
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When did I say Kiba was Issei subordinate? What are you evening talking about? And I don't care about your predictions so you can keep them to yourself.
I just meant I don't think Kiba will be on Issei's team which would technically put him under Issei's command.
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Old 2018-12-27, 05:05   Link #5628
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I honestly don't like the idea of Issei recruiting people from Rias' team for the next matches, it's better to focus on the characters who will be in his peerage.
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Old 2018-12-27, 06:00   Link #5629
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Well it depends on how Ishibumi wants to do it, if he decides to remove more members going forth then it could be possible that Ise's team will need to replenish themselves.
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Old 2018-12-27, 07:32   Link #5630
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I'll just go out on a limb and predict that Issei recruits Ingvild to his Azazel Cup team and then loses to Diehauser.

And in my view, I don't see him replacing anyone on his team with anyone else as that would seem like an insult to the team members he has come this far with.

And honestly, I bet no one on his team is worth less than 2 pawn pieces by Azazel Cup standards.
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Old 2018-12-27, 07:34   Link #5631
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I want to see Ravel get a power up from Issei, since she's a pure blood her powerups like Rias' will have to come from either an external source or years of training. A cool one imo would be after a proposal from Issei their auras sync and she gets a power jump (high to ultimate) along with Issei/Ddraig's inferno ability (obviously not that it can burn all but the dragon gods, since it's an ultimate class devils power what it can burn is equal to her power and depends on the opponents power) her flames are as immortal as her, so if you want to extinguish them you have to retire her.

I think Irina should get her own version of CDD and CED but with the white wyverns, since Irina has always been suppose to compete with Xenovia but Xenovia's sudden jumps have left Irina in the dirt her power up should perfectly conflict with Xenovia, just like the red and white dragon emperors.

Lucidrago if he does add Ingvild it seems like a reasonable assumption that she'll have a better grasp on her powers and with that in mind I really doubt that Diehauser will be able to beat them even with Worthless.
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Old 2018-12-27, 08:22   Link #5632
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I want to see Ravel get a power up from Issei, since she's a pure blood her powerups like Rias' will have to come from either an external source or years of training. A cool one imo would be after a proposal from Issei their auras sync and she gets a power jump (high to ultimate) along with Issei/Ddraig's inferno ability (obviously not that it can burn all but the dragon gods, since it's an ultimate class devils power what it can burn is equal to her power and depends on the opponents power) her flames are as immortal as her, so if you want to extinguish them you have to retire her.

I think Irina should get her own version of CDD and CED but with the white wyverns, since Irina has always been suppose to compete with Xenovia but Xenovia's sudden jumps have left Irina in the dirt her power up should perfectly conflict with Xenovia, just like the red and white dragon emperors.

Lucidrago if he does add Ingvild it seems like a reasonable assumption that she'll have a better grasp on her powers and with that in mind I really doubt that Diehauser will be able to beat them even with Worthless.
So a white wyvern armor, but what would stop him from giving that to Xenovia as well, whats stopping him from giving the red wyvern to Irina. Xenovia and Rias can wear it, so any of the girls with enough training can wear them. If you want to give her a conflicting power up it would have to demonic or some type of death ability

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Old 2018-12-27, 08:36   Link #5633
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I assumed he was able to give Xenovia the red one because their auras synced so maybe Irina will sync better with Albions power in Issei.
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Old 2018-12-27, 08:41   Link #5634
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I assumed he was able to give Xenovia the red one because their auras synced so maybe Irina will sync better with Albions power in Issei.
But why would Irina sync better with Albions power? And please don't say because she a angel. With enough training any of the girls she be able to wear the armor.
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Old 2018-12-27, 08:54   Link #5635
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I don't know why she would sync better with Albions power, but she does need a power up, it's a means of catching back up to Xenovia and ever since Issei learnt to turn the wyverns to red he doesn't seem to use divide at all.
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Old 2018-12-27, 12:43   Link #5636
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Ah, yeah. There was something I wanted to tell Sensei.

“Sensei, I found this one possibility…….though I couldn’t try it out this time.”

“Kiba’s Sacred Gear……. Is it something which has something to do with the new Balance-Breaker?”

“Yes. I also have that power which I gained afterwards…..the power of Hakuryuukou, so maybe perhaps….”

Yeah, I think there is also a possibility for me as well. I also was able to gain conversation with the Albion-senpai from that match.

“…….That is something which contradicts with your ability. It’s also the direct ability to halve, but specialising in that power will put your life in danger once again. And if you were to activate it, you might not be able to use the power of Sekiryuutei.”

The Sacred Gear will respond to you the stronger your feelings are. So it means it will depend on my training and imagination huh. It will be a negative thing if I can’t use the power of Sekiryuutei while I use the power of Hakuryuukou. Kiba’s new technique was like that after all. Maybe doing something about it will depend on my imagination and adaptability.

There is also an option to make it a sub-species. But will I be able to do it? I feel uneasy about it. But Kiba was able to change it to a sub-species Balance Breaker, so I would like to think there is a possibility! Next time, I will resume my training with Kiba!

this is the reason issei isn't using divide right now . issei can use the divding jewel to make a sup-species

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Old 2018-12-27, 13:13   Link #5637
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Well the fact is that Divide and Reflect aren't original abilities of Issei's. Giving her such armor may be impossible for him regardless of his abilities.

There are already limits with Crimson Destruction Dragonar and Crimson Extinct Dragonar. How do you think it'll be for abilities that are not even Issei's own?

Ravel's flames are as immortal as her? Well Saji has her beat as his black flames constantly burn the opponent even after he dies.
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Old 2018-12-27, 14:12   Link #5638
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Ah, yeah. There was something I wanted to tell Sensei.

“Sensei, I found this one possibility…….though I couldn’t try it out this time.”

“Kiba’s Sacred Gear……. Is it something which has something to do with the new Balance-Breaker?”

“Yes. I also have that power which I gained afterwards…..the power of Hakuryuukou, so maybe perhaps….”

Yeah, I think there is also a possibility for me as well. I also was able to gain conversation with the Albion-senpai from that match.

“…….That is something which contradicts with your ability. It’s also the direct ability to halve, but specialising in that power will put your life in danger once again. And if you were to activate it, you might not be able to use the power of Sekiryuutei.”

The Sacred Gear will respond to you the stronger your feelings are. So it means it will depend on my training and imagination huh. It will be a negative thing if I can’t use the power of Sekiryuutei while I use the power of Hakuryuukou. Kiba’s new technique was like that after all. Maybe doing something about it will depend on my imagination and adaptability.

There is also an option to make it a sub-species. But will I be able to do it? I feel uneasy about it. But Kiba was able to change it to a sub-species Balance Breaker, so I would like to think there is a possibility! Next time, I will resume my training with Kiba!

this is the reason issei isn't using divide right now . issei can use the divding jewel to make a sup-species
What does this have to do with wyverns and Irina getting a power-up?
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Old 2018-12-27, 14:21   Link #5639
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@TheWu8128 everything actually . if issei can spilt the red and white wyverns irina would be able to use both forms and i was answering TommyG
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Old 2018-12-27, 14:49   Link #5640
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There could be a way for Ise to beat Dielhauser.
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