Code Geass (Generic discussion thread)

[Lolipopo]

Originally Posted by incorrupts

Idk, thought i would re-post this one here, seeing how lately, the special Edition has been discussed here.
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Not good quality, but i thought i would post them anwyay, till something new comes up. Credit to katsumi from LJ, apparently those are { a few??} images we'll see as ending of the Special Edition Zero Requiem.

Spoiler for cut because i am not of the people that enjoy stretching this section:

That's really a beautiful set, the first and the last one + the one at the beach are really made of awesomness.
It's kinda weird not to see the Ashford trip one though, it would have fit to this set.

[ThoHell]

Originally Posted by incorrupts

Do you even know what you are talking about, or ??

What do you think I'm talking about, or?

[Nobodyman9]

Originally Posted by ThoHell

What do you think I'm talking about, or?

The problem is you're using the wrong terminology. OVA (Original Video Animation) indicates that it's going to be some kind of animation or continuation of the series that we haven't seen. The ZR DVD, however, is a recap. As far as I know we're not going to see any new animation or new scenes aside from those pictures that just came up, but those don't really count as animation. We'll get some new narration from four of the characters, probably summarizing and maybe giving some new insight on the events of R2, but still, not really enough to qualify it as an OVA. It could probably be best described as a recap.

[incorrupts]

OVA is also used, when something new prior to what we have seen will be featured as well. So yeah, you used way too many wrong terms.
ZR, will be probably a recap with hopefully a few of new stuff, so yeah.

[darthfury78]

Originally Posted by DepressiveManiac

Eh? I was talking about the one with Lelouch and Nunnally. It looks like a very nice "What if?" picture.

You mean to say that the last picture represents "What if" Marianne was not killed by that psyhopath V.V., the immortal brother of Charles?

[Nobodyman9]

Originally Posted by darthfury78

You mean to say that the last picture represents "What if" Marianne was not killed by that psyhopath V.V., the immortal brother of Charles?

Well, it's gotta be some kind of "what if." I mean, Nunnally can see and is standing on both her legs. So yeah, I'd say it's probably something like that.

[incorrupts]

Originally Posted by Nobodyman9

Well, it's gotta be some kind of "what if." I mean, Nunnally can see and is standing on both her legs. So yeah, I'd say it's probably something like that.

Lol, it is something like that. Seeing the oh-so-nice papa-mama-duo in the background as well.

[ThoHell]

Originally Posted by Nobodyman9

The problem is you're using the wrong terminology. OVA (Original Video Animation) indicates that it's going to be some kind of animation or continuation of the series that we haven't seen. The ZR DVD, however, is a recap. As far as I know we're not going to see any new animation or new scenes aside from those pictures that just came up, but those don't really count as animation. We'll get some new narration from four of the characters, probably summarizing and maybe giving some new insight on the events of R2, but still, not really enough to qualify it as an OVA. It could probably be best described as a recap.

Originally Posted by incorrupts

OVA is also used, when something new prior to what we have seen will be featured as well. So yeah, you used way too many wrong terms.
ZR, will be probably a recap with hopefully a few of new stuff, so yeah.

No kidding that's what an OVA is, we all know what the acronym stands for. However, the dang thing is labeled as an OVA on many sources, so therefore that's what I referred to it as. I know it's a recap, because that's what they said it was. It's the exact same thing as the recap for season 1 but it's for season 2 and is about 30 minutes shorter. If it being called an OVA bothers you so much, go and change their labeling on the sites which has them labeled as an OVA.

[Betteroffer]

I was rewatching the first season and during the SAZ's setup, it was mentioned that in exchange for creating it, Britannia would be given "exclusive rights to the Sakuradite." What exactly did this mean? Britannia already had control over Japan, and even though the industrial management was left to the NAC and Kyoto, wouldn't the Britannian government still have the final say in exactly which countries they traded the Sakuradite to, and how much they were willing to give out in the first place?

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Betteroffer

I was rewatching the first season and during the SAZ's setup, it was mentioned that in exchange for creating it, Britannia would be given "exclusive rights to the Sakuradite." What exactly did this mean? Britannia already had control over Japan, and even though the industrial management was left to the NAC and Kyoto, wouldn't the Britannian government still have the final say in exactly which countries they traded the Sakuradite to, and how much they were willing to give out in the first place?

You misunderstand. Kirihara was given those exclusive rights by Britannia because he was working with them to remove the Black Knights' support.

[youngde]

Originally Posted by Betteroffer

I was rewatching the first season and during the SAZ's setup, it was mentioned that in exchange for creating it, Britannia would be given "exclusive rights to the Sakuradite." What exactly did this mean? Britannia already had control over Japan, and even though the industrial management was left to the NAC and Kyoto, wouldn't the Britannian government still have the final say in exactly which countries they traded the Sakuradite to, and how much they were willing to give out in the first place?

As I recall, during episode 8, when Shirley, Milly and Nina were hostages, the same hotel was a meeting place for some sort of summit that decided to distribution of Sakuradite to various countries, which seems to indicate that Britannia doesn't have a complete hold on the Sakuradite trade, though I don't know why they wouldn't.

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by youngde

As I recall, during episode 8, when Shirley, Milly and Nina were hostages, the same hotel was a meeting place for some sort of summit that decided to distribution of Sakuradite to various countries, which seems to indicate that Britannia doesn't have a complete hold on the Sakuradite trade, though I don't know why they wouldn't.

They don't have a complete hold on it. Its just that Japan is the largest source of Sakuradite in the world... and Britannia has it.

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

They don't have a complete hold on it. Its just that Japan is the largest source of Sakuradite in the world... and Britannia has it.

And, powerful as they are, they would not win the predictable war if they decided to be greedy and hoard it. Trading keeps the other powers pacified.

[Betteroffer]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

You misunderstand. Kirihara was given those exclusive rights by Britannia because he was working with them to remove the Black Knights' support.

So Kirihara would agree to disband the Kyoto 6 and point out the Britannian nobles on the NAC they had bribed to turn a blind eye, and in exchange he and the rest of Kyoto wouldn't get arrested and he would get exclusive rights to the Sakuradite? Would Kirihara having 100% control of the Sakuradite change anything, or was that just a reward for pointing out the nobles he had bribed?

Wouldn't this still leave the members of Kyoto with a good amount of money to restart their terrorist funding, or was the whole point that by streamlining the process they would have no chances to "lose" the resources in red tape? Even then, wouldn't the Kyoto members be able to to secretly aquire resources from other countries like China and the EU by "overpaying here and there" or something? (I'm not very politically, economically, or espionage...y savvy).

Was the reason that Britannia left the Sakuradite trade to the NAC and Kyoto because it fell under the economic jurisdiction, and it would be seen as one less headache for the government to deal with?

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Betteroffer

So Kirihara would agree to disband the Kyoto 6 and point out the Britannian nobles on the NAC they had bribed to turn a blind eye, and in exchange he and the rest of Kyoto wouldn't get arrested and he would get exclusive rights to the Sakuradite? Would Kirihara having 100% control of the Sakuradite change anything, or was that just a reward for pointing out the nobles he had bribed?

It was a deal. He gets this, he rats out the NAC and stops funding the Black Knights.

Originally Posted by Betteroffer

Wouldn't this still leave the members of Kyoto with a good amount of money to restart their terrorist funding, or was the whole point that by streamlining the process they would have no chances to "lose" the resources in red tape? Even then, wouldn't the Kyoto members be able to to secretly aquire resources from other countries like China and the EU by "overpaying here and there" or something? (I'm not very politically, economically, or espionage...y savvy).

They were interested in short-term benefits. Without Zero, terrorism wouldn't be a big problem.

Originally Posted by Betteroffer

Was the reason that Britannia left the Sakuradite trade to the NAC and Kyoto because it fell under the economic jurisdiction, and it would be seen as one less headache for the government to deal with?

There is a provisional government they had to work with, and Elevens are cheaper labor. Made sense to put the collaborator (which Kirihara is) in charge of mining.

[Betteroffer]

Originally Posted by morbosfist

They were interested in short-term benefits. Without Zero, terrorism wouldn't be a big problem.

So the idea was as long as Zero gave up and joined the SAZ to keep up the "Knights of Justice" image, any other groups that Kyoto were able to fund (or survived independantly) would just be "savage terrorists" in the Japanese people's eyes, and would only be as successful as the localized ghetto groups were, and Cornelia would easily pick those off?

[morbosfist]

Originally Posted by Betteroffer

So the idea was as long as Zero gave up and joined the SAZ to keep up the "Knights of Justice" image, any other groups that Kyoto were able to fund (or survived independantly) would just be "savage terrorists" in the Japanese people's eyes, and would only be as successful as the localized ghetto groups were, and Cornelia would easily pick those off?

Yes, pretty much. The SAZ discredited the terrorist movement, so any that cropped up would never gain traction.

[Rising Dragon]

Luckily for the Black Knights (at first), Lelouch managed to fuck things up and cause the SAZ to never happen.

[incorrupts]

About ZR, they did re-dub cerain scenes. A friend from LJ, told me she has not watched it fully yet, but she noticed that in Rolo's scenes they added blood and the crying of Nunally in the end, it is different.

Man, i so wish they will have added tongue-effects in the Kalulu-kiss, so people will kindly shut up about it. 8D

[bladeofdarkness]

any other news on significant changes ?