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I'm having a hard time understanding Kano here.. It's obvious she's falling for Nitta more and more. But how does she feel about that?
Back in Ch10 when she says 'lets have dinner tonight' and he responds 'I can't refuse your orders' - she looks totally pissed. I interpret that expression to mean that she's mad at herself. Why would she be mad at Nitta here, he's just stating the obvious (that she herself has told him over and over). After that little setback, it isn't until Ch16 that she starts to warm up again. Then she definitely seems to have had a change of heart. She tells him to visit her AFTER work (rather than calling him out in the middle of the day), and takes him out for dinner '..because I thought YOU needed a good meal'. Maybe it's unconscious, but it seems like she was trying to have more of a 'normal' relationship. Then we get to Ch23, and she pulls out the 'I didn't say you could leave yet' crap again. When Nitta tells her to 'quit acting like I'm your boyfriend', does she freak out because she finally realized what she was doing? Even though Nitta's an idiot, I can't really blame him for the way things turned out. Unfortunately, that will probably be chapter LAST, but I totally agree. |
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To be fair, Kano didn't invite him over just for sex. She wanted to spend time with him. Nitta decided to jump right into sex. The problem is communication: Kano is horrible at expressing her feelings and Nitta isn't a mind reader (and often assumes the worst).
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Did she think he was starting to have feelings for her too? Absolutely no evidence for that. Did she just suddenly realize that having him as a real boyfriend is what she actually wants (and can never have)? Guess I just don't get her thought process. What was she expecting from him exactly? She has no reason to express her feelings if they're not going to be reciprocated. |
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it's explained in ch 28 though i guess most people already guessed why she started to like him it's a little bit too cliche i guess,if you read alot of romance manga involving a haughty rich girl |
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Sure, Kano was probably lying to herself by pretending that they had a real relationship and Nitta shattered her illusions by confronting her with the ugly truth. Most people don't handle the ugly truth; they get wounded by it. Kano, when finally forced to face her situation - no real friends and no Nitta for support - decided to self-destruct and return to her old ways - ways that Nitta hated with a passion. While it's probably certain that no one here participates in daily orgies and are accustomed to such a hedonistic lifestyle as Kano's, we have all done our share of stupid and maybe even dangerous things when we've been brutally exposed to our disillusions. It's in our nature as emotional human beings.
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And with regards to the rage, it could be a lot worse. It's not like they are in a relationship and trust was shattered or there was a see-through mirror for Nitta or something. I think what hurts me most as a reader is that Kano would go back to that. On a side note, I'm not raging nearly as much as I did with a certain VN's third route. I literally raged for weeks there, no joke.
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And by "I can't refuse your orders", Nitta devalues all the little hints of care he has given to her. Suddenly they become merely parts of the big financial coercion. It makes them seem NOT born out of kindness anymore, but only compelled by the role Nitta is forced to play. That is frustrating and disappointing her, and so she shows her anger. Quote:
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And thats my gripe with Kano or rather the manga - you just doesn't know if she doesnt switch back to whoring herself out to relieve stress/loneliness again when she under pressure/stress. The author made the Kano and her development unreliable by throwing 23 chapters of supposed development under the bus with one chapter where she goes off to her old ways. This makes all the development further on under the big question mark as well. |
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And it does feel good. You can see when she has sex with those two guys that the sex did feel very good for her, its the aftermath when the emptiness came to bite her into the ass but the sex itself felt good. I before believed that it was her only mean to socialize and that she did not feel good doing it with her friends but seeing the act drawn changed my understanding - she does indeed enjoy sex as an act (doesnt really matter with whom) its just that the aftermath that changes everything. The body pleasure is gone and the emptiness of the soul returns as the sex is only a momentary drug to cure oneself off ones problems. |
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Location: Hamburg
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You are fixated on your strange reading that there's something "bad" in her which is driving her to seek out swingers and indulge in sinful sex. And due to these sins, she's falling apart. For you, even her Nitta relationship is all about sex, and her inherent corruptedness will always turn any attempt to have a normal relationship into a eternal gamble. And you haven't adjusted your opinions even when it became crystal clear that you're off. Quote:
After being brushed off by Nitta, this is her social life left to her. And whether or not she may feel lust eventually during the act is TOTALLY beside the point. She isn't there to satisfy her sex drive, even during the act she's still aching about the Nitta scene. I seriously wonder why you are so hardwired on an obviously wrong interpretation, after the perfectly logical chapter 27. There cannot be what there must not be? |
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