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View Poll Results: Penguin Drum - Episode 15 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 27 | 42.86% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 22 | 34.92% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 11 | 17.46% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 0 | 0% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 3.17% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 1.59% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-10-22, 01:38 | Link #41 |
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The fire around her in the OP hints that she's probably going to use the spell of the diary at some point, but that doesn't necessarily mean she's going to die. For instance, after saving Yuri Momoka was severely injured but didn't die. Also, as Kirarakim pointed out, Ringo isn't totally engulfed by the flames anymore in the new OP.
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2011-10-22, 01:42 | Link #42 | |
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PS: i don't like the new OP as much as the old one, the song is not as good, and too much recycled animation =/
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2011-10-22, 01:48 | Link #43 | ||
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I don't find these 3 relationships cliche at all. Predictable maybe...but they are only predictable because they have been set up & developed nicely. Now I am not saying all these relationships will turn out but I am certainly hoping they will (and in the order they are listed actually). Not everything has to be a twist for the sake of a twist. Quote:
I actually just made a comparison post on LJ about the new OP. I hope it's okay to just post the link here (because it's a pretty long post) http://penguindrum.livejournal.com/31907.html#cutid1
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2011-10-22, 01:50 | Link #44 | |
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Are they going to get together at the end? I don't know, but I think there's chance they will. You know, I think they're a bit like Anthy and Utena from the movie (not the tv series) and well, you know....
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2011-10-22, 02:01 | Link #45 |
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Very plausible theory.
That was unexpected. I really didn't see it coming - as much as I tried to picture the reason Yuri was so into Momoka, something of this magnitude never even occurred to me. Some father that was. |
2011-10-22, 02:03 | Link #46 | ||
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We saw Ringo x Sho's shipping miles away before ep 13, didn't we? And nothing should indicate this relationship before that point Quote:
On Utena x Anthy comparison. Without the TV to strongly imply. Their relationship was no more than friend until the very ending
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2011-10-22, 02:04 | Link #47 |
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So, who exactly does Natsume constantly refer to when she says she needs to crush him?
Did Yuri know Natsume was coming that night? The whole scenario from her side seems way too convenient. Also, already posted the image of Yuri with her relatively see-through towel in the hotsprings battling Natsume that didn't show any hints of a penis between her delectable legs. Lastly, I always hope for a mind-rapingly depressing ending, but that's just because everything always ends happily, so I'm always hoping for something to break the mold. I'm not expecting it though, and am pretty sure it'll be all peaches and cream by the time all is said and done.
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2011-10-22, 02:11 | Link #48 | |
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It's true that Yuri really went through all that troubles to make a copy through. Maybe she knows that while she need to check what was written in there (the content) from time to time, the physical diary itself is special. So a copy will be the best decision, as she can check what was written inside, while ensure the real one is not stolen On the ending, you are evil
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2011-10-22, 02:16 | Link #49 | |
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At any rate, the way Ringo is now, she isn't going to force herself on Shouma, so I think Shouma is going to have to seek her out on his own. Their story is tied together so there's no doubt they're going to get closer and closer. That's not shipping, but plain reading comprehension. So the dance scene was just friendly? Really, I think now you're trying too hard. Regardless, the comparison was about how both got closer by helping each other to overcome their issues, which is what I see happening between Shouma and Ringo.
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2011-10-22, 02:24 | Link #50 | ||
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I am not going to get into the Mario/Himari thing because as you see I erased that from your list. I don't know what I feel about that scene. It was too surreal for me to make heads or tails of it and I am not even sure it happened in the real world.
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I disagree that nothing should have indicated the relationship before ep 13 as I said there were hints from early on (like Shouma fitting the diary entries just as well as Tabuki, Shouma & Ringo switching clothes, etc). Quote:
Ringo came to grips with her feelings for Shouma in about 2 episodes; 9 to 11 episodes is plenty of time. Sometimes so called "cliche relationships" are better than plot twists for the sake of plot twists. Ringo & Shouma have been set up from the beginning for a reason. Will they ultimately end up together & live happily ever after I don't know. However I am 100% confident that their relationship will develop and be important to the overall story.
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2011-10-22, 02:24 | Link #51 | |
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On Utena, well they also did dance during early period of the original TV but it was not quite the same. And i still think the screen was more powerful thank to the reflection (literally and figuratively) of these two over the original TV series. Even so, by that time ,i won't bet my life on that they will end up like the ending
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2011-10-22, 02:29 | Link #52 | |
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And personally I think it would be cheap to not have that relationship develop; just because it's "unexpected".
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2011-10-22, 02:32 | Link #53 | |
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What I do know is that what's drawing Shouma and Ringo together is the plot, not any delusional feeling I might have towards them. This doesn't mean they're going to get together for sure, but for now that's where the story seems to be going IMO.
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2011-10-22, 02:36 | Link #54 | |
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@Kazu-kun: i kinda consider Tabuki x Momoka and Yuri x Momoka shipping (or heck,even Tabuki x Yuri). And surely the triangle relationships of these three will be one of the key of future Penguin Drum's plot. So yes i actually count Shouma x RIngo as shipping
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2011-10-22, 02:54 | Link #55 |
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A key to the plot, maybe, but the key to overcome their issues, I don't think so. I think that's the difference between all those pairing and the thing between Ringo and Shouma. These two are set to develop (in a positive way) by helping each other. I don't really see this in any of the other pairings you mentioned. They relate to the plot, but character wise, they seem to have pretty negative consequences.
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2011-10-22, 03:20 | Link #56 | ||
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This must be the most absurd show I have watched in a while. For all those who complain about the coincidences, just remember that the main theme is fate. Within the show's twisted universe it makes perfect sense that Shouma is accidentally staying next door to Yuri, as well as being unable to help her, and for Yuri to change her mind, because his rescue attempt made her realize that Ringo could never replace Momoka.
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Also I must remind everyone, that Momoka used the diary to undo a bunny's and Yuri's deaths (yeah, it is strongly implied that they DID die)... while Yuri wants to undo Momoka's death, Masako her sister's (I think), and Kanba/Shouma Himari's... still what puzzles me is for what their parents used it for... and another thing I cannot tie in yet is Himari... more specifically how do Satenoshi as well as princess of the crystal are connected to her... during her flashback episode, she saw another girl wearing the penguin hat... they are going to be related somehow, and I am itching to see how |
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2011-10-22, 03:26 | Link #57 | |
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After all we also knew Natsume was heading that way (and she did show up) so Ikuhara could have just as easily had her save Ringo. Shouma being at the same inn as Ringo was obviously meant to enforce the theme of fate and the connection between Ringo & Shouma even more in my opinion.
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2011-10-22, 03:30 | Link #58 | |
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I means if Ringo affection toward Shouma is just a device to get herself out of her illusion, to set up Shouma into his guilt post, to drive up Yuri's back story. Then it's very possible that in the end we will have something like Ringo will visit/invite the three sibling family for curry from time to time. Her role can be a family friend, to indicate that she overcame Momoka's shadow, while the siblings shows that they are no longer isolated. The open ending that directors love so much In short the development of their relationship so far could be plot device. But the final outcome is not necessary to be one. Unless Ringo fate was tie down to Shouma, and it may kill her if they are ever separated
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On that vein: Spoiler for novel spoiler:
I think if you put the pieces together, you can sort of see where this is going.
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2011-10-22, 03:38 | Link #60 | |
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OK, another kid at the aquarium... dunno if it was a male or female, with kids it does not matter anyway |
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