2014-04-13, 05:54 | Link #41 | |
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I think the way the power of a magician is determined is the problem it seems to forced to me, i mean the magic community in the story knows that there are more powerful and more useful types of magic besides the 4 great systems and still the magician rank is judged by those only.A BS magician may not be able to use all of 4 systems but that doesn't mean his power is lower then one that can use the 4 great systems. I don`t know its seems forced and out of place to judge the level based that alone,its like i judge a soccer player by how well he can execute free kicks, he may suck at those but excel at other abilities but he wont be a great soccer player because of that which in reality that has no logic or sense what so ever. Especially since its said there are only so few magicians in the world and yet the world set a system to diminish the number even more, i don`t know seems to forced to me. |
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2014-04-13, 06:29 | Link #42 | |
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Yes, BS mages are powerful in their specialty but they have more weaknesses than common mages and if their enemy exploit them, they will die very quickly. Just to remind you, Magicians are weapon and weapon that have limited use or can be destroyed easily, albeit powerful, wouldn't have the same value as those more stable ones.
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2014-04-13, 06:38 | Link #43 | |
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But as Lina said, even if your grades are bad, if you can demonstrate true ability, you can find your own place. (Just like someone with bad grades in school can succeed later in life.) Good grades just make it easier to follow the beaten path and find a good position. |
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2014-04-13, 06:39 | Link #44 | |
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2014-04-13, 07:12 | Link #45 | |
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The statement that an "all-round" magician can better protect him self then a BS magician doesn't have any logic. Its true that BS magicians don`t have the same options in terms of spells when it comes down to battles but that does not mean they have more weaknesses then the rest since the defense is determined by how well u can use counter magic. In case of tatsuya besides having very powerful counter magics and the regrowth ability that practically leaves no opening to exploit he also uses his decomposition magic as a zone interference(area-of-effect decomposition) which is more powerful then ZI since ZI effect is determined by how strong the attacking spell in relation to the ZI, and AOE decomposition will simply erase any spell that has a form in eidos. The point i`m trying to make is this, the ability to use systematic magic is not directly related to the ability to use counter magic, as shown by tatsuya his systematic magic use is a c-rank but his counter magic is a rank and in case of mayumi where her systematic magic is a-rank but her counter magic beyond ZI only consists of a very weak form of gram demolition. The only down side of BS magicians is them being specialized in one field only there's a chance that u can come across another magician that uses a magic that naturally is very resistant to his own, like tatsuya's Mist Dispersal is with Jummonji's Phalanx or His decomposition versus his Maya's magic, tatsuya won`t win because his a stronger magician but he will win because Maya's magic type is weak versus Tatsuya magic type. To put it in lame terms like using wind versus rock, the rock will have a natural resistance to wind but if u use wind versus water then the water will have a natural weakness to wind, just because they use magic to invoke certain phenomenons that does not change the natural order of those phenomenons. Last edited by SoboSobo; 2014-04-13 at 07:37. |
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2014-04-13, 07:48 | Link #47 | |
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Also, I don't think Miya would count as BS magician, just read the first part of your quote. |
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2014-04-13, 08:05 | Link #48 | |
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Tatsuya being an exception because him having more then one specialization there's no room left in his magic calculation area for the generalized magic besides the artificial one that is very limited. Probably if tatsuya only had decomposition as his innate ability he would've been able to use generalized magic to a greater effect. |
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2014-04-13, 09:07 | Link #50 | |
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And the statement that normal magicians have better protection than BS magicians is mostly true, Tatsuya is an exception because the 2 gram spells are very, very rare. A BS magician not specialized in defense wouldn't be able to use Data Fortification or Zone Interference, |
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2014-04-13, 09:21 | Link #51 | |
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2014-04-13, 10:38 | Link #52 | |
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2014-04-13, 10:40 | Link #53 | |
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2014-04-13, 10:50 | Link #55 |
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I don't want to say that the magic is in their mind, just that they are born with this unique ability and that no one can use it, the magic in in their genes. I don't think even Miyuki could use Cocytus freely once she is born, she had to master it before the events of Reminiscence, even Tatsuya had to learn to master his powers.
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2014-04-13, 11:04 | Link #56 | ||
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And as for normal magicians having better protection yes but that does not means the difference is a big as CatRules said Quote:
We don`t know enough about counter magic and about BS as well. Could be that other BS magicians have other spells for defense and even more powerful counter magics. Of course we are talking in an ideal situation, On a real battlefield this whole situation changes. |
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2014-04-13, 13:52 | Link #59 | ||
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The big difference is that each Yotsuba has an unique innate magic but it's either OSM or an OP magic. |
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