2010-08-22, 23:45 | Link #41 |
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Having watched the episode in full, I think the major problem isn't what some seem to see as trolling and other seems to see as way of providing a dramatic cliff hanger. No the real problem is the year long gap.
Having to wait a year to see the end results gives time for anger to grow and caring to shrink. That and if they go the band end route, it will make the "wait" even worse and feel pointless. Also, they have just one episode to take of everything that was set up by the first part. So they have to use their time well. I wonder if a shorter gap between episodes and few more would have made a difference.
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2010-08-23, 06:39 | Link #42 | |||
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True, no gripes there. In fact given how hot, tired and squashed everybody was, I'm impressed by how good-natured people were at Comiket. Cram 100K+ NZers together under those conditions and you'd soon be calling in the riot squad
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Agreed. This is pure speculation, but maybe it's driven by the Comiket schedule - with only four months until C79, perhaps they just felt they couldn't make the deadline. Desperately trying to look on the bright side, a year is hopefully long enough to do a good job on the technical aspects regardless of how the story turns out.
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2010-08-23, 06:49 | Link #43 | ||
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I was also a little surprised the DVD was so cheap. It's probably because so few people worked on it. & yes, Isshiki-san sure is cute. Quote:
I'm actually dying to see the next episode. It seems to me that anything could happen, from a nice conclusion to a nice boat end (I could imagine Kiiko ripping heads off with her powers ).
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2010-08-23, 17:05 | Link #46 | |
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2010-08-24, 10:48 | Link #48 |
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AH HAHAHAHAHAHA I loved that, if one wants to put it down as trolling then sure why not, it was great trolling!
I'm one that goes with the flow best he can and follow the flow i did twith this, was quite the surpise but I found it more amusing than "WTF IS THIS S***?!" looking forward to the next ep!
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2010-08-24, 21:20 | Link #49 | |
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BTW, I kind of suspect that a lot of the NTR out there is intended as a sort of troll. It gets a big reaction, with a few psychos who really like it, a moderate number of people who don't care, and many who feel inspired to rage and scream. It definitely gets controversial easily, draws attention, and in some cases will keep viewers coming back. With a cliffhanger like this, it can be hard to not want to see the continuation. |
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2010-08-25, 18:51 | Link #50 |
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The auteur of this anime, Ishikawa Naoya, has a good blog, with illustrations and photos of some of the stages in the work. He also has an official site. Check out the links at the top of that page. There are illustrations, etc., and even downloadable video files of his previous works (second link from left).
The amount of work he had to put in to do the whole anime by himself is pretty staggering. He talks in the blog about the hard work of scanning the drawings, and then spending two weeks at a tablet adding the colors to everything. During that period, he says that he couldn't have done it without the help of his (imaginary) "anime spirit" Caramel. In the drawing below, you can see that Caramel looks exactly the same as the Caramel who is a "sweets spirit" in the (highly enjoyable) anime Yumeiro Patissiere. I don't know if this means he was involved in that show, but I can find no record of that. In the drawing, she is saying "Ganbaru desuu" ("working haard") and he is sighing. The seiyuu recording took place on June 23. He talks about the finished product -- the master from which the DVDs would be made -- being delivered to him on June 28, on a hard drive. At Natsucomi, the three people in the booth were the seiyuu, the animator himself, and the head of Primastea, the company that published the anime. As for the amazing troll/cliffhanger, I have come down enough to just look forward to whatever they do with it. I still don't like introducing something so suddenly and without preparation -- unless we think that Kiiko realizing that the brother is her long-time favorite musician constitutes preparation. That in itself is interesting, anyway.
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2010-08-26, 10:30 | Link #51 | |
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2010-08-28, 06:23 | Link #52 |
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Watched episode 1, and it was okay, I guess. The twist at the end was a bombshell, but I don't really feel anything right now. I guess I would be more pissed/shocked if they developed the relationship of the two girls better. I know they had a limited time to do it, but still. Overall it was a decent episode. I wonder how they're going to follow it up.
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2011-07-25, 01:38 | Link #53 |
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Still nothing on the official site about Part 2 - has anyone checked out the C80 catalog yet?
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2011-07-25, 14:26 | Link #56 | |
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And I am completely okay with just the first episode as a standalone (because imho, that was in of itself a complete work and a very well done one except for the obviously low budget animation) but a second one would be very nice as well. |
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2011-07-25, 14:28 | Link #57 |
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Because this thread got bumped, I actually bothered to watch it. I hate the way it was drawn. Looks like something someone on DeviantArt slapped together. However, I liked the story and voice acting. It was cute.
Now, I wouldn't call the ending "trolling" as many others have. That's just ignorant. It's a story, and stories have twists. The girl was having an incestuous affair with her brother... So? That's a plot twist, not a troll. Trolling would be the appropriate term to use if it turned out that one of the girls was actually a guy, or if there wasn't an ounce of yuri present despite what was in the trailer. Don't just toss around the word "trolling" EVERY time something happens that YOU don't like/isn't what you expect. The terms "plot twist" and "trolling" aren't synonymous. Gosh, you people... |
2011-07-25, 14:36 | Link #58 |
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Gosh you. It was NTR from the pov of the protag, which is considered a troll by many. People are free to take it as they may. To each his own. You may not find it a troll (and I am with you on this one) but you shouldn't look down on people for as trivial a reason. I thought it was super obvious that incest was involved when the brother was introduced though. Apparently not :\ Perhaps it was the influence of all the incest related material I was foraging around that time ._.
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2011-07-26, 01:56 | Link #60 | |
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To be honest I'm in two minds myself. Having bought the first DVD at C78 the thought of it being left incomplete grieves my inner magpie. On the other hand, reading back through this thread I see I defended the first episode by saying "it might not suck when we see the rest!" Perhaps it's better not to find out... |
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