2024-04-18, 02:48 | Link #42 |
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they skip so much and on fast-forward they are censoring strange things watching this anime my respect for the Manga creator of this series increased so much maybe they should have given all that anime studio money to him he is doing a great job adapting to the source material as close as possible.
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2024-04-18, 16:55 | Link #43 |
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You misunderstood. I'm not arguing that they are guests as if it is in doubt. I'm stating it as the fact it is and siting the more limited proof shown in the anime. Nothing Rou said in ep 2 was a lie. He told the goblins to keep their hands off them and to take care of them. The only thing he asked of them was about the humans. They are stuck there but Rou isn't forcing them to stay or do work. They could just leave but as you pointed out no sane person would as there they are protected and Rou doesn't currently have a way to get them home.
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2024-04-18, 17:45 | Link #44 |
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But they can't leave. Not without escort and Rou only offered vague promise letting them go sometime in closely unspecified future. Thus yes, their guest status is very much in doubt. Anyway if you want dismiss multiple cases of brain damage as something normal, than be my guest and I will leave at that.
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After watching ep 3 today, I thought the writing was fan-fictiony as hell(get more power-ups, find treasure vault no one has found before, having sex with all the girls, etc.), so I had to come here and get a different opinion on things. There are good discussions on both sides of the logic. As for my initial impressions, I also thought it was ridiculous how these women are flocking toward Gobrou in this episode to the point of having sex with him. It just seems unrealistic considering how they were acquired, even if Gobrou has been courteous towards them. After reading the comments here, I thought about it a bit deeper, but I still feel its ridiculous, almost unnatural. Then again, it depends on the hierarchy different races exist.
Initially, the goblins seemed like your typical goblins; they stole a batch of girls and those girls killed themselves, assuming they'd rather die than be baby factories. This made be believe they are considered typical goblins(akin to monsters) and that interactions between species(or at least goblins themselves) isn't a thing here. We know Gobrou is different, but he's still a goblin, so it feels unnatural for human women to want to sleep with him. Being comfortable is fine, but having sex seems a bit outlandish. But its hard to say if its outlandish in the context of the story's setting, because all of it has only been in the forest so far. Maybe its normal for human women to sleep with other races. But unless I see proof of that, I can't get on board with the idea. I mean, ALL of them wanted to have sex with him at the same time! That's not normal in any situation I can think of if they're normal people with regular job skills(alchemist, blacksmith, etc.). The only other idea I can think of is that he used the skills he got from the dryad, and those had an effect, maybe a passive effect(similar to Tomoki in Tsukimichi, if you watch that one) and that had an influence in their behavior. But the redhead girl slept with him(no sex) in the last episode, so it feels less like the probable cause. Quote:
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2024-04-20, 09:38 | Link #46 |
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Well, we have plenty of series where the protagonist has an harem of demihumans or monster girls, so I don't really have a problem with the fact that human girls might be OK sleeping with an ogre that looks very similar to an handsome, muscular man.
Is it realistic? I'm not going to deny there is a fair amount of wish fulfillment here, but again I'm so used to the typical "you were kind to me so I'll love you forever" we often see in harems to really be surprised. Actually, I checked this part in the manga, and Spoiler for some details from the manga:
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2024-04-20, 21:40 | Link #48 |
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The interspecies thing wasn't what made me think it was weird. It was the fact that they are there against their will. Usually the harem protags will collect aren't formed of people who were kidnapped. Surprising, really, as you see slave harems pretty regularly. I guess buying/owning people is less problematic for Japanese fantasy writers versus using force to subdue them heh.
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2024-04-20, 22:52 | Link #49 | |
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Incidentally, the same logic can be applied there. Ignoring whether the loss of freedom is a big thing for the girls or not (believe it or not, for most of human history freedom was not a right but a rare privilege), the MC is not the one responsible for their situation, but the one that pulled them out of horrible situation and did everything he could to make it decent for them. Btw. everyone seems to be applying modern logic to the girls, but depending on emancipation of the society they might have MORE freedom to pursue whatever field they want to now than they used to in human society. |
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2024-04-21, 02:59 | Link #50 |
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An other thing to take into account is Rou in a bit oblivious to the fact just how damn charismatic he is and everything is told from his POV. First off once he became a hobgoblin he looks nearly identical to a younger version of himself from his past life with a different skin color. Second he is a natural womanizer. So while he says "I spent the day talking to the girl's" to their POV powerful hot guy has taken an interest in me and is talking about how good a wife I would be.
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Second thing is that it no make sense to apply medieval standard on Re:Monster world. One of girls is alchemist and other blacksmith which are both very top of their respective social classes. Neither would be possible without fair share emancipation (and in former case also high level of education) in this world and let's be honest before long we will definitely encounter one or two female knights/adventurers and get beach episode where all girls gonna wear modern two piece swimsuit.
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2024-04-21, 06:47 | Link #53 |
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If he promised them freedom and didn't granted it to them yet, that means they don't have freedom. They were kidnapped and Rou didn't do anything to fix that (he gave them better living conditions but that's separate matter).
Alchemist herself have very high quality clothes and on top of that glasses, which is big deal. That means either she or her family has money and she certainly had higher living standard than she has now. Same goes for blacksmith girl to lesser degree, even if she wasn't career blacksmith than her father was and they were relatively well off. On top of it they had resources and time do such things as hobby, that means they had very supportive family, which is something would want return to.Regardless there is no way those two in particular would have better live in goblin cave than they had before and certainly they have less freedom now. Also there is no reason for Forrest not having beach.
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Alchemy isn't really expensive as a hobby if you get the ingredients yourself and being wealthy and happy are two different things. A girl's life in medieval times would be decided by her parents and later husband and the husband was unlikely to let them be crafters (since that would embarrass him). If they had any attachment to the craft, that's their problem. And we don't even know whether their family is still alive. It wouldn't make sense that the girls (maybe except red-head) would travel with a caravan alone, so their famil has either been dead by that time, or they died during the attack (or at least part of them). While the second one would give them some reason to hate the goblins, the attackers and Rou's group are two distinct groups which Rou showed by beating the ex-chief to death. In either case, they have little to return to home. Beach requires sand and trees don't grow well in sand. That means they need to get out of the forest first to go to a beach. |
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So we are going to see a war with humans, looking forward to that.
I like how they are casually handling that he ate the elves that lost (while leaving it pretty clear he did with the blood around his mouth) and how he casually comments about the skill he gets from the corpse, this never gets old. Though hasn't anyone told him that you shouldn't eat what you find on the ground? Anyway, looking forward to how the anime is gonna "sensitively" handle the issue around the elven prisoners. Also, Hobsei was always funnily crazy interesting (maybe a bit more crazy), but after her rank-up, she looks pretty hot. Looking forward to how Hobsato will turn out after her rank-up too. And Redhead is slowly turning wild. |
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Also not everything in forrest is covered trees. There are clearings, lakes, rivers and forrest can even go as far as to reach sea
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To your comparison, it's more like a new president of the USA finds out there are imprisoned Martians in Area 51 and promises to treat them well and return them to Mars, but can't do so yet, since the technology to go there is still being developed. Quote:
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I am not sure how combatant females are treated, though they are rare and we know of no married ones. Elves are hardly a good approximation for human society their longevity, low fertility, and overall physical specs likely lead to a much lower need for "women taking care of home/children" and higher emancipation. Quote:
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2024-04-22, 18:16 | Link #58 |
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It took dozen of low level hobgoblin. Rou himself was stronger than all of them combined several evolution before and old guard obviously knew the route.
Sure, but that's not the case for literal precious metals, is it now and they have literally no freedom. They barelly can leave cave. You have super weird definition of freedom. And again personal freedom is modern invention. Then you are assuming wrong in 99% cases. Noone who watch anime or read manga/novels would assume isekai = realistic medieval society. We didn't even step out of forrest and we already have bunch of anachronism like female warriors and dirt cheap glass. Only isekai that has some actually mediaval aspects in recent two decades would be Mushoku Tensei and even there is like single country in whole that world where women have significantly lower position than men (and even there there are female knights in position of leadership). Anyway I feel like I am talking to wall and there is really no point doing that. Feel free to have last word.
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Sure, I don't doubt their feelings would soften as time goes by and I could even see them falling in love with him eventually as they see he's a somewhat decent person. It's the timespan that makes it odd. Nine days is awful short to go from kidnapped to wanting to bang your captor, heh. The likely reason is the same logic MC had when he rigged it so the elf men died and the ladies lived. Cute girls are great, lol. I imagine it's not fun to have to write them constantly moping and depressed so with a sprinkle of the otaku fantasy dust, we get these girls saying "ah fuck it" in record time Redhead is probably better off sticking with them now that she is a monster eater. In human society, they'd probably think she's odd / gross now. She must have gotten some really strong teeth as part of the job change; chowing down on skulls doesn't sound like a simple thing to me. Alchemist chick also seems to have a pretty decent thing going, nice little lab. I wonder how long the elf babes will be in lockdown. I wonder how many days it will be till he's banging them, heh. Now will the kobolds get the same love, or is furry sex a bridge too far for him? lol |
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