2009-08-08, 07:16 | Link #41 |
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Sometime I wonder if it isn't just Maria's way to escape from reality.
If she were to acknowledge that witches do not exist, she'd have to accept that her mom died and she could never see her again. The idea that magic exist, that everyone will be revived in the end and that she will see her mom again in a far better world is a lot more appealing. So maybe she does all those witch talks as a form of defense, everytime someone denies the witch she has to jump in and tell him how he's wrong, not because she wants to "convert" him, but because she wants to strengthen her conviction. Of course she already believed in the witch from the start, but the situation made her worse, and her psychotic faces and reactions maybe come from the fact that deep inside her she knows what's the truth and as freud said, an unresolved internal conflict brings to madness.
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2009-08-08, 07:22 | Link #42 |
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I don't really have much of a preference for Maria yet, as I've only played the first game (The rest are coming in the post this week, yay!! <3) and up to ep 6 for the anime, but I really like her "uuu" - it's cute. <3
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2009-08-16, 07:44 | Link #55 |
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In the beginning I didn't like Maria at all and just found her annoying. But somehow she's started to grow on me.
Still, it's annoying when people die and she just laughs. Maybe a lack of common sense lies in the Ushiromiya blood? (Just look at Kinzo. )
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2009-08-16, 10:53 | Link #56 |
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Actually, I think Maria feels that there's no real need to be sad when everyone is going to be revive and meet again in the Golden Land anyway, due to her deep belief in magic/Beatrice. So her laughter is, in my opinion, her looking down on the others for not understanding that.
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2009-08-16, 13:22 | Link #57 |
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As I mentioned in another thread, my current theory is that she's got Asperger's Syndrome. She fits the diagnosis pretty well: Obsessive about one topic (occultism), lack of empathy, and deafness to social cues (which is very bad for her, as it means she can't tell when her mom's about to snap).
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2009-08-16, 16:17 | Link #58 |
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One diagnosis isn't going to cover her imo. I suspect that her interest in the occult may be explained as we get on in the series. Poor kid on top of beng abused may even have a second personality (creepy Maria) to escape all the violence and pain.
She gave me a headache in the beginning. Now I just say "Poor kid.".
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2009-08-16, 17:01 | Link #59 |
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I love Maria's UUU sound. I fall for the cuteness of the 'UUU'. But at other time I find her so annoying when she's at her crazy laugh scenes. I feel a sick kind of sadism whenever Battler 'pats' Maria on the head.
But I fall for her cuteness. <3
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About the asperger syndrome. It is a very common theory. It is even mentioned in the japanese umineko wiki. However I disagree with it.
This is the diagnostic table of the asperger syndrome according to the DSM IV Quote:
If one person characteristics do not met all of them, they can't be diagnosed with this syndrome. Now Maria's case in my opinion fulfill every point, except number one. Thinking that the number I is irrelevant is a mistake. The number one states: Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by at least two of the following: - marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction: Do not mistake this. It says "impairment" not "strange". And the problem must be with social interactions. Maria hasn't any "marked" problem with this. She can smile, she can be frown, she looks people in their eyes (and this is a very big clue that she isn't suffering from autism). - failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level Maria does have problems at school. However it isn't her fault. It isn't she the one who avoids people. At any rate she doesn't show such a social impairment on Rokkenjima, anything else is speculation because it wasn't shown. You need to understand that Maria doesn't remember Battler, the 4 October 1986 is as if she met him for the first time. And yet the two socialized in a matter of seconds. - a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interest or achievements with other people, (e.g.. by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people) I don't think I need to explain this. It is completely wrong. Maria LOVES to show her interests to others. - lack of social or emotional reciprocity Excluding the lack of empathy she shows for the murders, Maria does' show this either. She well understands when people are angry (her mother), she understands when people are afraid (Battler), and she understands when people are happy. This kind of lack of understandment of human emotions is something that is very characteristic of the asperger syndrome and autism, yet Maria doesn't show that. The other problem I see with this theory is that it doesn't explain at all the main problem of Maria's strange behavior. The first thing you would say about Maria is that she is delusional and unable to face reality. However nothing of the sort is explained by autism.
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