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please continue. or ignore if this point is explained in vol 2
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2016-08-15, 18:21 | Link #45 |
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I have a feeling Lazuli will get pretty pissed when she realizes she is falling into the same trap that Dantalion is. Her goal was originally to get Dantalion as a puppet, which she easily could have done now that he loved her. Instead, she's pushing him away and acting 'disappointed', losing her chance at completely controlling him. Pretty sure once the dust settles, there's going to be a no touching rule between them.
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2016-08-16, 13:59 | Link #47 | |
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1) Dantalion actually fell for Lapis and is coming to Barbatos for help. In the end, Barbatos gives him relationship advice while getting closer to him. -this is most likely the surface story (ie, what Dantalion wants the country to believe). It's consistent with making him seem weaker than Lapis, and gives Barbatos a way of feeling closer to Dantalion without him necessarily owing her a favor (that's what the wine was for). 2) Dantalion is trying to get closer to Barbatos with Lapis in on the scheme. -this would make sense, since it's amazing she would have the courage to slap him in the middle of the city otherwise. However, it would mean that a large portion of the story that we've read hasn't really happened, and would take a bit of explanation to not seem to big of an asspull. 3) Dantalion is trying to get closer to Barbatos without Lapis in on the scheme. -This would be his major play, I think. The old woman in the beginning was actually a test for Lapis sent by Dantalion to see how she would react to Dantalion seeming affectionate. Instead of using this knowledge to further her own goals (ie, manipulating him to get more affectionate) she instead feels disappointed that 'this isn't the guy I like'. The scenes afterwards are Dantalion manipulating her further so that when he does his reveal, he can show how 'irrational' she is being by not manipulating his love. |
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he hasn't fallen for lapis, he is only getting possessive and emotional over her, which she doesnt like since the one she liked is the scheming and ruthless bastard dantalian she saw up to the point where they shagged. And yes, i am also expecting for him to blow everything up her face for her being emotional over it too instead of using the chance to manipulate him Next is he is doing points 2 and 3, dantalian knows lapis isnt a good actor so he is leading her on while she may or may not be in the dark about him acquiring baratos' favor. Also, i dont think lapis' mother is part of dantalian's plan, i can only chalk it up to his twisted environment back in earth as to why he nonchalantly picks the option to kill her and lapis misunderstanding that he cares when she thinks he shouldnt. Everything in vol 2 so happened and are showed as flashbacks. The POV headers are indicators of this since everything in the prologue happened hours before the farce with barbatos and 10 days since acquiring acquiring laura. Why farce? Its because of the reference dantalian made about reverse psychology he is doing to barbatos, by making her think that the reason she is doing him a favor is not because she needs to return it but because he is making her think she likes him enough to do it, plus the monologue slips dantalian deliberately made for us. Since it was mentioned by lapis that dantalian only has gold compared to ranks 1, 2, 3, 5, 8 and 9's troops, political power and individual strength, it is highly likely that lapis got mad because she is worried over dantalian trying to play barbatos, because if he failed and was killed, his promise of power to lapis will go down the drain. Do note that even though lapis and dantalian reverted back to the way they were before they shagged after lapis' affection hit 0 after acquiring laura, they still made plans together. -- Most of this is speculation i added to the speculation some anons came up a few days ago, chpater three may come out tomorrow or the day after, hope some things become even clearer by then
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2016-08-25, 15:36 | Link #53 | |
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It's a bit upsetting, since /a/ is probably the best place to discuss it on 4chan. Where else should it go, /jp/, /b/?
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So, does anyone else think that the hero from the story will eventually be part of Dantalion's gang? I see Dantalion adopting the hero as a means of control. |
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2016-08-25, 19:20 | Link #55 |
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No the Hero is born. According to the Hero's story we were told in volume 1. In 1 year from when Dantalian showed up in this world, that one weakling Demon Lord that Dantalian killed would go off and wipe out a human town. The Hero was the only survivor of that town and would ten years down the road after they grew up get revenge and then from there wipe out all the other Demon Lords too.
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2016-08-25, 20:09 | Link #56 |
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yeah thats why dantalian kill that 72nd demon lord already , even though i think it can go either way, killing that tutorial demon lord or actually telling that demon lord to make sure that he kill al the villager , but he goes with the first since the chance also good for him to make a name for himself at niflheim
i think it also the fact that noone can get the raw beside from LN that those who usually read the raw dont have that many thing to talk gimme moar spoiler and gimme more paimon |
2016-08-25, 21:58 | Link #57 |
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it's a bit questionable about the hero though.. The Hero only "awakened" because of the stupid 72nd Demon Lord which has been killed by Dantalian, so it's arguable that he'll even awakened at all..
and a reckless move to eliminate him might actually be a bad move since it will be bad if he got awakened. Controlling humans to try to kill him (so that he hate humans if he survive) is probably the better choice btw I wonder if Dantalian is manipulating information so that Barbatos thinks that Dantalian is still not smart enough to guess that she's the one who make the army march to his castle? In the end something like that is really dangerous since Barbatos might as well eliminate him for being too smart on deduction
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2016-08-25, 22:08 | Link #58 |
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I've got to admit, I didn't expect this line while reading about the background of the main character:
"...This world is tragic. Even if you’re vexed, what can you do. This is the truth. The carbon dioxide exhaust rate won’t go down, China will grasp capital over the entire world, Justin Bieber will receive the Nobel Prize in literature……" |
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No idea who that is though, or I've just forgotten :S Edit: Ah, she's the one in the prologue that begged him to spare 'her' life, and not her people. Last edited by Sizaki; 2016-08-28 at 10:26. |
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