2014-07-11, 08:02 | Link #41 |
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I like how they played around with tropes with regard to the main male characters- the seemingly stoic and resolved "leader" is the one being plagued by ghosts of the past, while the childlike and impulsive "subordinate" seems to have no regrets about anything, and might actually be the more dangerous of the two.
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2014-07-11, 08:31 | Link #42 |
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Seems like they reproduced the Tokyo Metropolitan Government Building quite well, even the internals of the observation deck. The strange part of this story is that they were able to get past the bag check shown previously and get access to the observation deck with so many plushies that were sold on the observation deck.
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2014-07-11, 09:42 | Link #43 |
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I'm not sure if it was an explosive per se, looked to me more like thermite, which burns at extremely high temperature, capable of melting steel etc. Any explosions would be from things like gas lines etc. Thermite does not react violently with water, rather, water has no effect on it as it contains an oxidizer. The use of thermite would also make sense given that Lisa was ordered to place one of those bomb-plushies in a very specific place, suggesting they intended her to place it there in order to melt through a girder in the structure of the tower.
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2014-07-11, 10:20 | Link #44 |
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Watanabe is back for real this time. That was absolutely excellent. The animation, the music, and the writing were all very high quality. I was hooked right away. I'm dying to find out more about Nine and Twelve's background and motivations. The glimpse of them we saw in this first episode were very intriguing.
The female lead didn't do much for me, but I believe she has potential to grow into a great character under the other two's guidance. Very curious to find out which direction they're going to take her character in. There are a lot of possibilities. I really wonder what the message of this anime is going to be. They obviously didn't make the main characters terrorists just for kicks.
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2014-07-11, 12:04 | Link #46 |
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Although i quite like the mature and realistic portrayal of the real life. i cant really agree to the premise of this anime, i mean what can justify their indiscriminate action.
actually did anyone die? it seem everyone was evacuated on time. if so then there is still turning points. tbh i judging by the poster and summary i thought they wiped out Tokyo or japan |
2014-07-11, 12:33 | Link #47 | |
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2014-07-11, 12:47 | Link #49 |
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Or at least it resulted in many injuries while seriously endangering the lives of any civilians who were nearby.
Twelve also had no qualms about killing the female lead if she wasn't going to become an accomplice (though he certainly hoped that she'll join). So yeah, all things point to that while they're trying to avoid causalities, they aren't exactly remorseful if some still happen. Overall, I seriously hope there WON'T be any kind of message with this anime. They might be more interested in publicity than ramping up a huge death toll but they're terrorists, regardless. Thankfully their names and that flashback implies the two of them have some sorts of "fantastic" background so I probably don't need to worry about it. |
2014-07-11, 12:55 | Link #51 |
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It is wrong.
Sure. Never stopped characters to kill many people in combat yet remaining "heroic". Never stopped people rooting for a mass murderer with a magic notebook, either. Never stopped people supporting a man who laughs manically while massacring armies or ruining Tokyo's entire infrastructure. Once there isn't a context with real life this is exactly the same. It becomes "fantasy". |
2014-07-11, 12:59 | Link #52 | |
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2014-07-11, 13:13 | Link #53 |
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It's probably too early to tell from just 1 episode what the writer's view/message is about terrorism. So i don't think we should concern ourself yet whether terrorism caused by them is justified or if we can sympathize with the protagnists (since we don't know much about them) for doing so.
As for the episode, it was surpisingly good. I didn't expect to like it that much. |
2014-07-11, 13:37 | Link #54 |
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Hmm I feel there a hidden message between the questions he asked her...
Either to die or to become accomplice. Dying would mean true freedom right? Misa's character seem to be reluctant to to do either. Or maybe I am reading too much. Seeing that the building was completely evacuated, I'm predicting that no one died besides some serious injuries to bystanders and first responders. The animation and dark cool colors were fitting with the theme. The character designs were realistic. Nine and Twelve, code names for the kids when they were prisoners? That would mean there could be others? Another theme about anti government? Yoko Kanno is back! I'm loving the ost. How long have we heard something similiar to it? Maybe GiTS. Watanabe making a Trio again. Since Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo. I wonder who is writing the script or screenplay. |
2014-07-11, 13:49 | Link #55 |
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Contrarily, killing for a reason isn't necessarily wrong. In a war, when you are fighting an opposing enemy to save many people you love, it is a choice rather than a "wrong."
Also, killing a mass murderer who could potentially kill many people at the push of a button isn't wrong either (from my POV). It depends on why they are doing this. Their motivations seem deep and interesting. They mentioned something about protecting others... and this is what really got me interested. Protecting others, weakness, overcoming weakness, and desensitivity to death/life. It's certainly mysterious to me. Nothing is ever black and white. The situation could be much more complex than it initially seems anyway... (e.g. if everyone was going to be killed anyway, and 9 & 12 did this to make others aware of it so they could prevent lots of future deaths somehow...) TBH: After reading/watching To aru series, I stopped believing that any character couldn't be redeemable to me no matter what they did in the past... |
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Also, are the boys working with someone else? Someone had to move that crane out of position to destroy the power cables and shut down the power. Either they had the thing on remote control, or someone else is working with them. Quote:
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2014-07-11, 16:52 | Link #59 |
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I've had high expectations for this series, and so far they're being mostly met - 12's character design keeps creeping me out, and I hope the characters will gain a personality, but otherwise this is very nice so far.
I did laugh at the shameless iPhone product placement. Apple is like "Please take note how the cool guys (and that one policeman) use our product reproduced with loving attention to details, while the girl uses some lame Windows phone stand-in." |
2014-07-11, 16:54 | Link #60 | |
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i can only see 2 reason for their action. completely crazy villain and want to take revenge on the world but this seems very unlikely or this world is fake/fantasy/dream and they try to wake people up. |
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