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Just to add on a little to what aohige has provided so far =3:
On Samurai: As mentioned they have very damaging one hit attacks, but this comes with a long cool-down. This means Samurai players have to time themselves well to make the best of their skills and to avoid running out of skills to use during their cool-down. While they can use a range of Oriental weapons, the Samurai's chief weapon is still the Nihonto. These are generally classified under two groups: the larger Tachi that is more on brute power and the smaller Katana that is suitable for players that prefers speed and agility. FYI, Soujirou's a Katana-user. On 8th District Shopping Centre: The funny thing is that despite its very merchant-like name, the 8th District actually started off as a group of causal players who played Elder Tale just to chitchat (of course they did go adventuring as well but that's secondary). The guild started doing business simply because they enjoyed the process... In a way we can compare them to a bunch of Recettes, without the debt and fairy. Charasin was nominated to be their representative, so he has, relatively speaking, less authority over his people compared to fellow crafter guildmasters like Michitaka and Roderick. This doesn't change that the fact that he's well-respected not only by his guildies but also folks from outside the guild. On Honesty: Honesty, led by the "Guru/Grandmaster" Eins, is known for their belief that information should be freely shared. They actively gather and disseminate information on large Raids, providing pictured walkthroughs on the 'Net for all to see. In this way they contribute to the servers' activities, but it's also due to this belief that puts them at loggerheads with some of the top guilds. On the West Wind Brigade: Despite its relatively small size, the Brigade is good at attacking and beating Raids faster than most. The guild is structured like a pyramid, with Soujirou at the top. Also, I'm not sure if Nazuna really sees him in a romantic light. AFAIK she just thinks of him as an adorable little brother. On Radio Market: Akaneya is an old-timer that has been around longer than even Shiroe and his guild is pretty old too. The old chap runs his guild on low profile as he dislikes the bickering between different factions and this has attracted solo players to him. Including himself, the Radio Market is known for being home to many high leveled but eccentric players. On Grandeur: Woodstock formed Grandeur in protest to the Black Sword's elitist ways and its main purpose is to provide low~mid level consumables.
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Log hora is different because they didn't even pursue that feeling. If I may say so I will probably call it love triangle with Minori but that is probably stretching it. Henrietta is professional on her feeling which is why I was surprised when she like Shiroe. And look at the op and ed of Log Hora. You won't even see it that other girls like Shiroe aside from Akatsuki because you get the feeling that they Shiroe and AKatsuki are the main pair. And lets stop talking about pairing or harem here because they are different. Log Hora is otp and sao is harem even if kirito already had a girlfriend since the beginning. Story wise fit doesn't seem so.
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2013-10-11, 11:41 | Link #44 |
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I honestly think the Round Table episode is gonna be the win-or-lose episode for the anime.
The director would have to be a moron to mess it up, and should have the potential to win over any nay-sayers. At least, that's how awesome I found it to be.
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I'll be happy if Log Horizon manages to avoid being unjustly tarred with the harem label, but like I said before I'm not optimistic about it. |
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We will see if log hora will fall into harem category as the anime was shown. As long as log hora wasn't shown in the same category with mc and girl stuck together for some time and the girl blush and shown affection and still show in the future then it probably won't be slap stick with harem label. Why is Shiroe a schemer? you called him schemer but strike it through as he had a plan instead of a scheme.
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He used deception, fraud, and insinuated coercion to achieve his goals.
He's the type that would use underhanded means if the end result is justifiable. Shiroe is infamous as the "the Scheming four-eyes" by the players of Yamato server.
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Just wanted to clear this up since it seems no one really knows... There are different types of harems. Not all harems will have each girl with an equal shot at the mc nor will they have an OTP. As a general rule of thumb if an anime has 1 boy with 3+ girls connected mainly to him (that is to say there might be other guys but the girls associate with him far more then the others) its usually a harem.
SAO would be a harem without a doubt, log horizon would be a harem if they spent more time developing the relationships between shiroe and the other girls much more then if they did with the other guys. Last edited by Quol; 2013-10-11 at 14:03. |
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2013-10-11, 17:52 | Link #53 |
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For me i'm fine with harems as long as its not the kind where the less then useless mc picks up a pencil that a girl dropped so now she has to fall in love with him and take off all her clothes.
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It's a catalyst to whole crap load of events that changes the course of their world. By episode 10-11 of the anime you'll see what I mean... in fact, all major events and developments from episode 6~10 is possible because of it.
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There are some, but I don't think they will apply to the anime since it's mostly problems with the narrative the author use.
For example, wordy descriptions. The author is extremely wordy at some of the most odd moments. Let's say person A says a simple question to person B. The narrative abruptly stops to give massive infodump on background of the the character, then blah blah blahs off in tangent from there, and a whole page or two later finally gets back to the scene with person B replying. Reader: eh, what the hell was the question again? There's also the rampant usage of cliffhanger scene changes. A segment climax with surprising declaration -> switch to event somewhere else, which climax to a situation -> abruptly switch back to the previous segment to show the reaction, etc. It's a common writing style, and not inherently bad. But when you do it several times in a row? It becomes hair tearingly annoying. I'm pretty sure these will be alleviated in the anime and manga though.
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Why is the food become a problem? I can think of it as a necessary because one becomes hungry in their situation so monopoly of food would be a good move if one starts power struggle but still >_> it taste bland.
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When you eat bland food everyday, you won't feel like living anymore due to low morale. I remember a segment of story in Grandia 2 where a village was possessed by a monster and cursed to having any of their food taste like sand. Most of the villagers are leaving the village but in Log Horizon, where else can you go?
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Another problem, one that also pops up in MaoYuu, is that Mamare have the tendency, an urge really, to be as precise as he can when it comes to details, especially when he's explaining a concept. While this makes good info dump, it can hurt the flow of his writing, which is as highlighted by aohige above. To sum it up, Mamare is good with world building and he's also good at using tropes and stereotypes to create the effect he wants. His main weakness is the way he tells the story, which I think will be improved on now that he's gone pro and has an editor to work with him =3 Btw, on the topic about food, we might want to remember that while bland food is a new (and torturous) experience to the Adventurers, the same cannot be said to the Earthlings who are born to such world and, unlike the Adventurers, do not know what's it's like to eat tasty food. Comparisons cannot be made when there's nothing else to compare to, you see =3
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