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Old 2015-07-05, 20:30   Link #41
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I see some people bitching about Iris, but I did like her myself, even if she's kinda the typical stoic girl. Nagisa was interesting but I don't like his character type.

I wonder who is the protagonist. Kaito (the teacher) is billed first, but it's clear as day Iris and Nagisa are more important. Nagisa for being the mysterious transfer student related to the powerful corporation and Iris for being the ace character who gets the shit done (sort of like Inaho, only female). But of the two, I'm not sure which one will be more relevant once the plot gets rolling. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.


EDIT: I just read a tweet from the writer apologizing for lying about the show being a rom-com.

So it's not a rom-com after all. I don't know if it will have any romance at all, but it seems the focus is on conspiracies and internal politics, that sort of thing.
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Old 2015-07-05, 21:20   Link #42
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Out of the many writers I know, Maruto is the least that i would expect to troll viewers since his works are often straightforward but sincere. That is surprising.
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Old 2015-07-05, 21:22   Link #43
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Why does this anime sort of reminded me of Valvrave? Following this...
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Old 2015-07-05, 21:25   Link #44
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First episode looked good, should be interesting to watch
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Old 2015-07-05, 21:40   Link #45
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Well dont know about this that girl who know how to fly and ride seem to be cool but the jerk seem to be putting this off
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Old 2015-07-05, 23:48   Link #46
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Why does this anime sort of reminded me of Valvrave? Following this...
Space, colonies with their own spheres.......yea, definitely Valvrave.

Protagonist has a bad attitude, hope that changes. At least the VA is good.
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Old 2015-07-05, 23:57   Link #47
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I wonder who is the protagonist. Kaito (the teacher) is billed first, but it's clear as day Iris and Nagisa are more important. Nagisa for being the mysterious transfer student related to the powerful corporation and Iris for being the ace character who gets the shit done (sort of like Inaho, only female). But of the two, I'm not sure which one will be more relevant once the plot gets rolling. We'll have to wait and see, I guess.
I guess Kaito will be the first POV because he is long winded like Haruki@WA2 and Tomoya@Saekano. But the event might be centered around Nagisa because he represent the corporate side, and his attitude of placing corporate interest above his own safety seems to be related to the story concept. The interaction between these two might be interesting to watch.
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EDIT: I just read a twitter from the writer apologizing for lying about the show being a rom-com.

So it's not a rom-com after all. I don't know if it will have any romance at all, but it seems the focus is on conspiracies and internal politics, that sort of thing.
Although it's said to be like that, I think there will be a layer of comedy or even on top of the corporate politics layer to make things more light toned and entertaining, given how the characters are being designed.
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Old 2015-07-06, 00:05   Link #48
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....EDIT: I just read a twitter from the writer apologizing for lying about the show being a rom-com.

So it's not a rom-com after all. I don't know if it will have any romance at all, but it seems the focus is on conspiracies and internal politics, that sort of thing.


Well, that rearranges my parameters of expectation and shovels some of my interest out the window too.
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Old 2015-07-06, 00:28   Link #49
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Honestly, I hate it when production staff bank too much on bait and switch concepts.
It's like they're sure that their work won't generate that much buzz unless they try to sensationalize the concept.
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Old 2015-07-06, 01:02   Link #50
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That kind of tricks seems to have gotten popular recently. I don't like it either.
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Old 2015-07-06, 01:41   Link #51
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I don't get why do that, I mean, if your show is about conspiracies and all that(?), why try to mask it as anything other than that?, specially as a rom-com, wich atracts a totally different audience who probably won't dig being decieved, and won't dig the concept of the thing they were tricked into watching ....
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Old 2015-07-06, 13:01   Link #52
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Maruto what have you done?!

It was a pleasant surprise and I kinda like ep1, though I can see how this show's gonna bomb in terms of sales.
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Old 2015-07-06, 15:51   Link #53
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I really don't like those Rei types. Why are they so popular
The idea of an emotionless robot of a girl is very appealing to some people. It implies submissiveness.
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Old 2015-07-06, 15:58   Link #54
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...which is not exactly what got this time
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Old 2015-07-06, 17:08   Link #55
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The idea of an emotionless robot of a girl is very appealing to some people. It implies submissiveness.
I don't think blatantly disobeying orders and going off your own is very submissive
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Old 2015-07-06, 19:33   Link #56
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It's more like lack of expression gives a mysterous image.
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Old 2015-07-06, 21:46   Link #57
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Episode 1

Basic characters, interesting premise, solid storytelling, knows how to build its setting (except for that odd 'introduction' at the end), easy on the eyes, and...is that a jazzy soundtrack I hear?

This show is just stupid enough to work.
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Old 2015-07-06, 23:43   Link #58
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I don't really see anything wrong with bait and switch itself. It's just badly executed here. At least pick a audience that would like to be deceived in the first place. I don't think rom-com SoL people like that.

Also, the synopsis. In other bait and switch shows, the synopsis isn't as different as the content of the show compared to this (that is if this show really is about conspiracies?)
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Old 2015-07-07, 01:46   Link #59
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Reading all the reactions in this thread, it seems I’m one of few who’s actually having a blast watching every minute of this episode . It’s has nice pace, good enough characters (so far), intentionally stupid and just roll with it with confidence. It also helps that I don’t expect any genre from this series, so I’m fine with whatever direction it will go. Wait, so Maruto wrote this? LOL That’s a nice surprise if true. I always find his works to be very entertaining.

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The idea of an emotionless robot of a girl is very appealing to some people. It implies submissiveness.
I don’t know about you, but I know a number of people who actually like Rei-clones due to their mysterious aura and that they are a challenge to get (even more challenging than tsunderes according to them). It’s not about being submissive. Also, Iris here is everything but submissive as she never did what she was told and just do things her way .
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Old 2015-07-07, 21:00   Link #60
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I liked the first episode. It's not perfect, but it's a lot of fun and I love its overall sense of style.

I dislike "bait and switch" as a general concept, but this is one case where I prefer "the switch" to the "bait", so in this particular case, it makes for a very pleasant surprise for me.

Frankly, anime romcoms are extremely commonplace, arguably a dime a dozen. A sci-fi show with good corporate/political intrigue - That I find is a much rarer treat, and I'm glad to see the potential for it here. It's for that very reason, in fact, that I find it a bit disappointing that they felt it necessary to do a "bait and switch" at all. I guess if the point was to pleasantly surprise some people, then that's fine. But while some like myself will be pleasantly surprised, others will be disappointed, and you also run the risk of failing to grab the attention of fans of your show's actual genre(s). This show may have escaped my attention entirely if not for Akuma Kinomoto's recommendation, and there's no way I'd want to miss a sleek-looking sci-fi show with good corporate/political intrigue.


The characters and settings look really good, the spaceships look great, and the whole thing just does an excellent job of being eye-catching.

I understand that some people don't like Rei Ayanami expies, and that's not my favorite anime character type, but honestly, it's been awhile since I recall seeing one. Maybe it's time for another "Rei Ayanami" to take the stage in modern anime.

So far, I really like Iris. She's cool and mysterious. Like Obelisk wrote, that's much the appeal to this character type - They don't read as easily as most other anime character types do, so it can be interesting to speculate about these characters and what makes them tick. Usually there is something (or someone) that they care a lot about, and it's here where their mostly hidden personality shines through well.

Iris did crack a smile at one point, and she does seem to care about her friend, so she's not entirely unemotional. There's already some hint of what she might care a lot about, and seeing that play out could make for an excellent story.


The transfer student... Well, I'm not the biggest fan of this type of character, but he could make a good foil for the teacher. There seems to be a sort of over-the-top idealism vs. ice-cold rationalism at play here, and it has some potential anyway. How well this philosophical conflict is handled might go a long way's to determining how good (or not) this show is as a whole.

For now, I'm on-board. It was probably the most intense and suspenseful first episode I've watched so far, this Summer 2015 anime season. I just hope it can keep that intensity up.
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