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View Poll Results: F/SN UBW TV - Episode 10 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 33 | 58.93% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 17 | 30.36% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 5 | 8.93% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 1 | 1.79% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2014-12-14, 05:50 | Link #41 |
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Oh, for a while there I thought they were going to show Archer's story. But I don't think they will because it wasn't in the source material, it's a bit too early for it, and it'd be something very similar to Kiritsugu's story in F/Z.
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2014-12-14, 05:56 | Link #42 | |
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And like people have been saying, Shirou using Traced weapons to great effect is Shirou's special ability. |
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2014-12-14, 07:01 | Link #43 |
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It's one of his experiences as a Heroic Spirit, maybe? Not sure if this is spoilers, but Archer has been betrayed again and again throughout his life and afterlife. That depiction was just one of the countless betrayals he faced to uphold his belief.
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2014-12-14, 07:17 | Link #44 | ||
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Nasu should've been more creative and invite a character from the distant future with futuristic weapons :P. Maybe a Lightsaber (or a mini version of Beam Sabers from Gundam-verse) or a futuristic gun? A man with a gun can still be Archer, right?
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2014-12-14, 07:26 | Link #45 | |
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2014-12-14, 07:29 | Link #46 |
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I read somewhere that the reason why there's no modern war veteran in the throne of heroes is because their feats is only made possible because of their guns and not strictly by themselves, i.e. their identity is the gun so they can't be stored in the throne.
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2014-12-14, 07:41 | Link #47 | |
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Only Shirou was special in that case, Spoiler for Fate/Kindred Ilya on Arhcer:
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2014-12-14, 07:54 | Link #49 |
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It's understandable why Saber got owned by Kuzuki and Shiro repel Kuzuki attack.
They both underestimate their opponent. Saber and others was thought Kuzuki is a normal master or mage so Saber got fatal attack then not have time to recovery. ...This fight had show how rider were defeated and end like that, Kuzuki attack brutally destroy neck. And yes Kuzuki also underestimate Shiro. Even gone far as ignore him and go for Rin first.
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2014-12-14, 07:57 | Link #51 |
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Heroic Spirits are made up of those who truly existed, those only from legends, and those who were never observed at all.Those who existed had belief of their deeds gathered upon their deaths and were sublimated into beings of higher rank, while those who only existed in myths and legends were born from the gathering of those beliefs even though they didn't exist. Those who were not observed are those who made a contract of some sort with the world during their lives and subsequently became Heroic Spirits, Counter Guardians, after their deaths as compensation.
The phenomenon applies to any human, animal, or machine that has left behind great enough achievements, but weapons becoming Heroic Spirits from being worshipped as the "greatest weapon of that era" must harbor a soul to achieve such a status. Each Heroic Spirit is a unique existence, "the one and only", who each stood out from the others of their time by performing deeds and possessing qualities that no other possessed. They are mostly limited to individuals born before the end of the 19th century due to the development of modern weaponry, but people from modern times and even the future can still become Counter Guardians through contracts with the world. While modern weapons are powerful, it would not normally be possible to summon a "warrior from the future loaded with modern weaponry" because it is difficult for such people to become classified as Heroic Spirits. Modern weapons grant ease of use with the advantage of "anyone can use them as long as they were trained", so those who use them are "faceless heroes" who lack any qualities because they possess "expertise anyone can achieve through sufficient training." Heroes loaded with modern weapons would not become the Heroic Spirit, but rather only the weapon being worshipped so long as it harbors a soul |
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You do realize that the “good” part is highly subjective right? That in itself is an opinion and personal preference . Like I said, there's no right or wrong in that.
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2014-12-14, 08:56 | Link #58 |
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You can judge OST by how it complements what's going on the screen or by how great it is to your ears. Sorry, but either way soundtrack that complements action well enough shouldn't be called bad. I might understand the comment like 'I can finally hear the music, lol,' but not dropping bricks on the soundtrack because it's so integrated into the animation you can't hear it.
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2014-12-14, 08:59 | Link #59 | |
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In contrast, when we think of people who are "heroes" nowadays, like in your example Ethan Hunt or Jason Bourne, people don't look at them as "super-human existences." They are seen as people who trained all their lives, and with the right mix of natural talent and hard work, accomplished what they have via their own, human means. Because they are looked at as "incredibly skilled individuals" instead of "super-human individuals," they aren't afforded the same kind of "worship" past heroes were, and so don't qualify to be sent to the Throne of Heroes. Fundamentally, I don't see anything preventing future heroes from coming into being, but there needs to be that added layer of mystique returned, something that makes them be regarded as above human. So actually, something like a Jedi is probably fairly close to being applicable for the category. Spoiler for Angel Notes:
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2014-12-14, 09:02 | Link #60 | |
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LOL nuff said.
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