2010-08-05, 16:21 | Link #41 | ||
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Speaking of which, Einhart doesn't use a device, does she? Quote:
A Unison accident is when the Unison device takes over the mage, operating using the mage's power, but without the mage's consent. Yami no Sho's taking over Hayate is an example of this. Though with a tad more extreme repercussions. |
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2010-08-05, 16:53 | Link #47 | |
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Other than the out-of-story explanation of giving her something to match her with Vivio, a look at Einhart's character would show that an adult form allows her to engage against opponents without them holding back against her due to her status as a child. It allows her opponent to not feel guilty about going all out, and thus allows Einhart to utilize her Kaiser Arts freely so she can validate them. She wouldn't be able to do that if she felt her opponent was holding back on her.
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2010-08-05, 16:56 | Link #48 |
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Depends on who you look at. Einhart used the mode mostly as a cover, Vivio used the mode mostly so she could spar with Nove. What actual bonuses the adult modes give have -to my knowledge- never been revealed.
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2010-08-05, 16:56 | Link #49 |
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Could be in her genes.
maybe all battle-oriented Belkan rulers can turn into adults when they go to battle when they're only four years old and turn back to normal when they're at home? Plus, Saint Kaiser Vivio was at least as powerful as the S+ Nanoha, most likely stronger, just lacking experiences when they fought. Loli!Vivio in StrikerS doesn't really rate on the scale, remember Schach telling (Signum or Nanoha, I forget who exactly) that her body was normal and her magic wasn't any stronger than it should have been for her age. Vivid!Vivio is A-rank (according to the test paper) in magic, but as an Adult, it's safe to assume she's closer to AAA or even S rank, since people clear the way for her and Nove to spar.
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2010-08-05, 17:04 | Link #50 |
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The real interesting questions of transformation magic and adult modes lie elsewhere. Namely, can adult mode Vivio get pregnant? Can a female use transformation magic to turn into a man and impregnate someone?
Of course, if you really follow this line of questioning, you'll end up needing brain bleach. =) |
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...this reminds me back to StrikerS, when Jail confessed to having impregnated the NumberS(without actual sex, I think). I reached the brain bleach when I realized this includes Cinque!
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2010-08-05, 17:16 | Link #54 | |
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Now for the real brain-killer: What would happen if a man got himself pregnant while transformed, and transforms back? |
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2010-08-05, 17:16 | Link #55 |
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Relic enhanced, not jewel seed enhanced.
ViVid went and said that Vivio's adult mode isn't the same as the Saint Kaiser transformation. As for the pregnancies, yeah, I think we should just bleach that out. I can see Uno, Tre and Quattro having that done to them, but not the rest. Plus, it's Jail, do you really trust everything he says? @Keroko - Mode Lock to prevent transforming back.
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2010-08-05, 17:22 | Link #56 | ||
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Just as a reminder on how squicky this topic can be: remember that they can transform to other creatures, not just a different gender...
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2010-08-05, 18:09 | Link #57 | |
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One argument against why this might not be possible, is that we haven't seen anyone with two mommies or two daddies, that wasn't adopted. Transformation magic may give the outward appearance of something, but the form would be sterile, but who knows how far someone could take it if they were skilled enough? Obviously, the creators never thought down this path, but human nature being what it is (Rule 34), odds are some people in Mid-Childa experiment with it, even if only for a kink.
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Although, won't someone please think of the furries!? |
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2010-08-05, 18:57 | Link #58 | |
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Touma might be a lead to Huckbein, Nove's one of Vivio's unofficial bodyguards and the Alpines are running RF6's secret mountain training camp. I'd note Chrono prefers storage devices though, since I think there is little doubt he could lay his hands on an ID if he wanted it. When Your device decides to make you it's puppet. As seen from the first Reinforce and Mach Calibre. |
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