Fallout 4: War Never Changes

[Rising Dragon]

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[Random Wanderer]

Shut. Up. And. Take. My. Money!!

[Tong]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

Shut. Up. And. Take. My. Money!!

I'd do that if it wasnt soooo overpriced on Steam.
Costs like 80$ for my country :/

[Kyero Fox]

Y'all notice this?!

[Jazzrat]

I think someone on neogaf or reddit picked that up soon after the trailer got released. Well Boston is supposed to be technologically proficient in androids in Fallout so maybe we are gonna get more robots and cyborgs related storyline?

[Tong]

It's obviously snek

[Kyero Fox]

I agree with my friend, I think that city is ran by Androids.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Tong

I'd do that if it wasnt soooo overpriced on Steam.
Costs like 80$ for my country :/

That won't stop me, since I'm pretty much guaranteed to buy whatever Collector's Edition that comes out. One thing I always want to get for any Bethesda Game Studios game is the The Making Of DVD. I've found the ones made by Todd Howard's team to always be really interesting to watch, so I insist on getting them. Costs me a fair bit, though.

Oh, would you believe there's an article in one of the Boston newspapers yesterday saying that setting a game in a ruined version of Boston is an insult to the city? Some folks are just nuts. But at least that gave me the heads up on the announcement. I'd been expecting it at Bethesda's big pre-E3 press conference, so I wasn't paying as close attention right now as I could have been.

[Kyero Fox]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

That won't stop me, since I'm pretty much guaranteed to buy whatever Collector's Edition that comes out. One thing I always want to get for any Bethesda Game Studios game is the The Making Of DVD. I've found the ones made by Todd Howard's team to always be really interesting to watch, so I insist on getting them. Costs me a fair bit, though.

Oh, would you believe there's an article in one of the Boston newspapers yesterday saying that setting a game in a ruined version of Boston is an insult to the city? Some folks are just nuts. But at least that gave me the heads up on the announcement. I'd been expecting it at Bethesda's big pre-E3 press conference, so I wasn't paying as close attention right now as I could have been.

Please link, I want something to laugh at.

[james0246]

Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

I agree with my friend, I think that city is ran by Androids.

Since Androids are slaves in the Commonwealth, it seems unlikely that the main city in the game will be run by androids (this depends on just when in the future the story takes place), though I expect there will probably be a village of synthetics somewhere in the Boston wastes.

[Tong]

I'm ready for a Bladerunner-like Quest.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

Please link, I want something to laugh at.

Here you go. In its defense it also presents an opposing view as well, but still the idea of someone getting offended by the game's setting seems ridiculous to me.

[Jazzrat]

Eh, it's nothing crazy compare to the stuff Polygon or Kotaku have posted before. For non-gamers, looking in at the craze that this community gets excited for is probably weird and offensive without proper context.

[aohige]

I'm about to start Fallout 3 and Vegas afterwards, hopefully I can finish both games before 4 comes out.

[Sheba]

Originally Posted by Jazzrat

Eh, it's nothing crazy compare to the stuff Polygon or Kotaku have posted before. For non-gamers, looking in at the craze that this community gets excited for is probably weird and offensive without proper context.

Dont get me started on Polygon, that hissy fit of them over Witcher 3 is so beyond embarrassing. You guys were not joking when you said that anglo-saxon game journalist is more dead than the proverbial dead horse. And I have seen people bitching on twitter over the Fallout 4's protag in the trailer being white, like wtf.

[Kyero Fox]

Originally Posted by Sheba

Dont get me started on Polygon, that hissy fit of them over Witcher 3 is so beyond embarrassing. You guys were not joking when you said that anglo-saxon game journalist is more dead than the proverbial dead horse. And I have seen people bitching on twitter over the Fallout 4's protag in the trailer being white, like wtf.

I just tell them that they make him White so you can color in the race of your choosing and add bewbs. White brown hair male character usually = blank slate.

1. They didn't show his face.
2. They showed the dog almost the entire trailer.
3. He only spoke to the dog.

He's not gonna be some Set character like Shepard, if he was gonna be they would have shown him more or atleast showed his face. That last scene was basicly just Bethesda telling you it's Dog Companion Gameplay will be a big part like Fable 2.

[Jazzrat]

Originally Posted by Sheba

Dont get me started on Polygon, that hissy fit of them over Witcher 3 is so beyond embarrassing. You guys were not joking when you said that anglo-saxon game journalist is more dead than the proverbial dead horse. And I have seen people bitching on twitter over the Fallout 4's protag in the trailer being white, like wtf.

It's their way of staying afloat these days. Hire cheap/fresh grad writers, write something sensationalist about the new games and get page views off people outraged at them. The whole videogame traditional media industry is in a weird funk these days with sites like youtube/twitch/reddit quickly overtaking them in terms of news delivery.

Originally Posted by Kyero Fox

I just tell them that they make him White so you can color in the race of your choosing and add bewbs. White brown hair male character usually = blank slate.

1. They didn't show his face.
2. They showed the dog almost the entire trailer.
3. He only spoke to the dog.

He's not gonna be some Set character like Shepard, if he was gonna be they would have shown him more or atleast showed his face. That last scene was basicly just Bethesda telling you it's Dog Companion Gameplay will be a big part like Fable 2.

No, you are the dog this time. He's the main focus this time which is why all the human models is poorly textured compare to the dog and more than half the trailer time is given to him/her.

[Random Wanderer]

Originally Posted by aohige

I'm about to start Fallout 3 and Vegas afterwards, hopefully I can finish both games before 4 comes out.

I don't have the numbers available for Fallout 3, but Steam tells me I've played 790 hours of Fallout New Vegas, and I expect my hour count for Fallout 3 would equal at least half of that again. Of course, that's not from a single playthrough, or a dozen playthroughs, or two-dozen playthroughs. I've played more characters in both games than I can count.

I enjoyed the things New Vegas did with its weapons and the ammo types and whatnot, and the tweaks to the combat made first person combat outside of VATS much more enjoyable, so I was able to spend a lot of time and have a lot of fun in New Vegas just killing things and looting stuff enough to buy the best weapons. Oh, make sure you get all the DLC for New Vegas: the Gun Runner's packs have some of the best weapons in the game (not all of them, but some of them), even if they are ludicrously expensive, so you will want them installed.

Now, I realize this will get me labled a heretic among fans of the series, but I personally enjoyed the atmosphere and setting of Fallout 3 more than New Vegas. Having that maze of city ruins filled with little out of the way alcoves and bunkers and half-ruined subway stations and other stuff, some of which didn't even get a marker on the map but all of which had something interesting in them... that was fun to me. And this may come as a shock, but I rather liked the story. It felt like I was trying to do something good, even if only on a small scale. Not everything has to be moral ambiguity, after all.

ANYway. Aohige, good luck on playthroughs. I'm sure you'll be able to beat the games before Fallout 4 comes out, but I really doubt you'll be able to find everything and do everything there is to do in them. I haven't found everything and done everything there is to do in them, and I've played stupidly ridiculous amounts of hours of them both.

EDIT: Apropos of nothing, as a resident of the Boston area, I hope that if Fallout 4 makes much use of subway tunnels and stations, that they did their research properly and actually model MBTA stations rather than just make generic subway tunnels. Why? Because it will both be cooler than way, and it will give each station a unique feel rather than making each one seem like a copy-paste of the last: something Fallout 3 was rather guily of with its subways.

[Tong]

inb4 randomly generated subway dungeons

[aohige]

Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

ANYway. Aohige, good luck on playthroughs. I'm sure you'll be able to beat the games before Fallout 4 comes out, but I really doubt you'll be able to find everything and do everything there is to do in them. I haven't found everything and done everything there is to do in them, and I've played stupidly ridiculous amounts of hours of them both.

I actually got stuck on a glitchy bug (can't go in the supermarket, my character clips through both doors and walks into the POLYGON of the supermarket instead of zoning) and I didn't feel like going back too far on saves, kinda stopped playing there. I'm sure I'll get back to it.

I expected this to have some similarities to Bethesda's TES series, but I was surprised to find out this is nearly EXACTLY the same system as The Elder Scrolls. It's... basically retro-future Skyrim/Oblivion..... even including all the game-breaking bugs.