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Sheba · 2008-03-14, 05:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypernova

Why do I feel a yandereish vibe from that pic?

Because two of Mai Nakahara's roles came to fame for their emo facial distortions?

Deathscyther · 2008-03-14, 06:10

Nice episode

The side-characters were given bigger roles than in the game and I'm all for that. The pacing was quite nice as well, and I do like that they explained how Nagisa found out about Akio and Sanae's pasts.

The first few minutes had quite a lot of 'fanservice' with Kotomi, Ryou and Kyou stretching and such

Can't wait for next episode.

Ascaloth · 2008-03-14, 06:48

Watched the TWH-Sprocket sub of Episode 21.

The first few minutes just about turned my brain to mush.

Otherwise, pretty slow episode with little going on. 8/10.

Blog article coming tonight.

Ruhisu · 2008-03-14, 07:00

This episode leaves big misteriours atmosphere because Nagisa finds out the past of her parents so we don't know how she will handle her play.

Kristen · 2008-03-14, 07:29

This was another very nice episode. It portrays a very warm sort of feeling, a lot how 20 did.

Well, first, did anyone notice the notebook at 17:56? It says on it "Hikarizaka High School Drama Club". So, this story takes place somewhere called Hikarizaka, since I cannot see them naming the high school after anything else.

It was interesting seeing everyone recite that tongue twister in unison. All the various voices meshing together, it was just perfect! Very symbolic of how everyone has joined forces for one very nonsensical girl.

Kotomi-chan actually made a couple non-filler comments this week, which was good. And, I'll have to wait for the screentime post, but I think this was enough to leap her over Fuuko.

Really, I'm finding this adaptation of the drama club to be better than the game itself. It's showing Nagisa with support, instead of trying to conquer something alone with just her boyfriend and some doofus who decided to come along. I find it to just be more powerful, and more beautiful.

And glasses Tomoyo really looks like a grandmother, thanks to her grey hair.

Anyways, 9/10. This episode was nice and beautiful, a lot like a largo in a symphony, but I thought it was moving a little too slow at times.

Takuto19 · 2008-03-14, 07:55

9/10 for me.

Was a great episode but never had the feeling that some other episodes did, really enjoyed it though and looking forward to next weeks, 3 episodes left and doesn't look like there going to do any After Story at all.

Sammich · 2008-03-14, 08:38

Great episode.. Only they cut off the picnic >.<
I was hoping a certain part of the game would be animated but I was wrong, sadly. :P
I bet the Megane Tomoyo pictures are flying around as I'm writing this..

Spoiler for More spoilery comments for people who haven't seen 21 yet:

Oh, and the camerangle after the OP with Ryou and Kotomi certainly was.... interesting. >.>
And WHAT is Akio... err, smoking, at around 6 minutes into the episode? o.0

arkxkra · 2008-03-14, 08:54

Spoiler for :

looking forward to next episode.

DragoonKain3 · 2008-03-14, 09:23

Meganekko Tomoyo = <3. Almost up to Kotomi in my moe meter again lol.

But really though, I dunno, but I feel so detached to both Tomoya and Nagisa now. Heck, that applies to all characters but Sunohara, who didn't get screentime. So yeah, I was half bored watching this episode. And if the next episode has something drastic happening, I dunno if I would actually feel anything at all to these characters. Oh well, nothing to do but wait and see.

Kinny Riddle · 2008-03-14, 10:28

Please do not watch Clannad thinking it is another tear-inducer like AIR or Kanon, it is not. If you think it is, of course you will be justifiably disappointed, because you're looking at it from a different perspective which is not what the creators have intended.

Though if you're just looking for a good story to tell, regardless of it being happy or sad, then Clannad is a safe bet for you.

The first few minutes with the camera angles on Ryou and Kotomi was, interesting. And finally, we get to see Megane Tomoyo FTW.

They're no doubt saving Tomoya's confession for Nagisa for the climax at the end of next episode, though in the game, they're already hanging out together for sometime.

Unlike the game, the Drama Club now certainly look more like a school club with Kyou, Ryou and Kotomi involved. Guess you need at least 5 people for a school club to be decently lively, much like the "infamous" SOS Brigade.

It was the most unfortunate of coincidences that led Nagisa to find out about her parents sacrificing their dreams for her, no doubt shaking her confidence greatly just before she was about to fulfill her dream of performing for the Drama Club. Poor girl.

(BTW, doesn't Sanae-san look incredibly young in one of the photos carrying baby Nagisa? She hardly ages. Neither does Akio, for that matter. )

grey_moon · 2008-03-14, 10:34

Glasses *drool*
Glasses are so sexy *drool*
Tomoyo looks so

The tongue twister training session was mad. I hope they release the out takes to them trying to record that

I am fearing a power tear fest next epi, I'm going to make sure I got plenty of snot rags ready...

Bankai29 · 2008-03-14, 11:24

Tomoyo and Sanae = HAWTTTTTTTTT

Deathkillz · 2008-03-14, 11:29

Spoiler:

Yukinokesshou · 2008-03-14, 11:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThoHell

Nagi......got patted on the head......like a little kid/dog...by an underclassman. I find that weird.

Weird? I always thought patpat was rather normal... I like patting and being patted. It feels nice

However, it IS easy to forget that Nagisa is actually two years older than Tomoyo!

Whatever leh, this episode very touching one ^^ (I give it 8 because at my university, a 70% is A or first class honours, the average mark is around 55% and maybe 5 people out of 100 get 80% or more.)

Proto · 2008-03-14, 11:44

Hmm... I wonder why some people are criticizing the episode for being slow pased and uneventful. I myself would praise the character for being slow pased, and slice-of-life'ish uneventful. CLANNAD isn't an action flick, and while we might argue it is drama based and drama asks for things to happen on a more frequent basis, I'd say that drama is not the main theme CLANNAD revolves around. In the school arc it is something much more simple, yet much more meaningful, and that is growing up. Growing up is much more about sharing your memories with the people around you through day-to-day, common, simple events, and IMHO the episode succeeded at showing so.

IRJustman · 2008-03-14, 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hypernova

Why do I feel a yandereish vibe from that pic?

Spoiler for length's sake:

I don't think she's going to pull a Ryugu Rena (who's also voiced by Nakahara Mai). Her personality just does not seem right for this.

Not to mention, if she were this nutso, After Story wouldn't even take place.

--Ian.

Ascaloth · 2008-03-14, 11:56

Blog article is up:

[RIUVA] CLANNAD (TV), Episode 21

Warning: May contain traces of sociological rambling.

kininku buster · 2008-03-14, 12:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yukinokesshou

Weird? I always thought patpat was rather normal... I like patting and being patted. It feels nice

However, it IS easy to forget that Nagisa is actually two years older than Tomoyo!

Whatever leh, this episode very touching one ^^ (I give it 8 because at my university, a 70% is A or first class honours, the average mark is around 55% and maybe 5 people out of 100 get 80% or more.)

When I had met a girl at my job a few years ago I used to do the same thing. But she was 2 years older than me (she was 22) and she didn't like that at all.

Rembr · 2008-03-14, 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proto

Hmm... I wonder why some people are criticizing the episode for being slow pased and uneventful. I myself would praise the character for being slow pased, and slice-of-life'ish uneventful. CLANNAD isn't an action flick, and while we might argue it is drama based and drama asks for things to happen on a more frequent basis, I'd say that drama is not the main theme CLANNAD revolves around. In the school arc it is something much more simple, yet much more meaningful, and that is growing up. Growing up is much more about sharing your memories with the people around you through day-to-day, common, simple events, and IMHO the episode succeeded at showing so.

The fact that they made what I'm thinking is supposed to be an emotional scene at the end in such a slow pace overall killed a lot of dramatic reaction.

Not to mention I really don't get why Nagisa would be so hung up about this. I guess that is where she needs to be growing up.

Mirrinus · 2008-03-14, 12:13

I didn't think the end of the episode with Nagisa's discovery of her parents' past was slow-paced at all. It was understated, to be sure, but to good effect. It gave the audience time to imagine their own notion of how Nagisa would react as she came to discover the journal and albums, what with the whole blatant Chekhov's gun and all.

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2008-03-14, 06:10	Link #42
Deathscyther Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: The Netherlands Age: 35	Nice episode The side-characters were given bigger roles than in the game and I'm all for that. The pacing was quite nice as well, and I do like that they explained how Nagisa found out about Akio and Sanae's pasts. The first few minutes had quite a lot of 'fanservice' with Kotomi, Ryou and Kyou stretching and such Can't wait for next episode. __________________

2008-03-14, 07:29	Link #45
Kristen Senior Member Author Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Virginia Tech	This was another very nice episode. It portrays a very warm sort of feeling, a lot how 20 did. Well, first, did anyone notice the notebook at 17:56? It says on it "Hikarizaka High School Drama Club". So, this story takes place somewhere called Hikarizaka, since I cannot see them naming the high school after anything else. It was interesting seeing everyone recite that tongue twister in unison. All the various voices meshing together, it was just perfect! Very symbolic of how everyone has joined forces for one very nonsensical girl. Kotomi-chan actually made a couple non-filler comments this week, which was good. And, I'll have to wait for the screentime post, but I think this was enough to leap her over Fuuko. Really, I'm finding this adaptation of the drama club to be better than the game itself. It's showing Nagisa with support, instead of trying to conquer something alone with just her boyfriend and some doofus who decided to come along. I find it to just be more powerful, and more beautiful. And glasses Tomoyo really looks like a grandmother, thanks to her grey hair. Anyways, 9/10. This episode was nice and beautiful, a lot like a largo in a symphony, but I thought it was moving a little too slow at times. __________________

2008-03-14, 07:55	Link #46
Takuto19 Yarrrr Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bonnie Scotland Age: 37	9/10 for me. Was a great episode but never had the feeling that some other episodes did, really enjoyed it though and looking forward to next weeks, 3 episodes left and doesn't look like there going to do any After Story at all. __________________

2008-03-14, 08:38	Link #47
Sammich Crazy Quoting Machine Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Netherlands Age: 37	Great episode.. Only they cut off the picnic >.< I was hoping a certain part of the game would be animated but I was wrong, sadly. :P I bet the Megane Tomoyo pictures are flying around as I'm writing this.. Spoiler for More spoilery comments for people who haven't seen 21 yet: The 'I'm glad it's you' comment Tomoyo made to Nagisa was great, it closed things off a bit more in a sense; and in a good way. The pace was great this episode but why haven't Tomoya and Nagisa hooked up yet? I liked how they handled Nagisa finding out about her parents' past; a slight amount of foreboding, followed by misleading the viewer into thinking it may not happen after all and then making your heart sink when Nagisa goes to get a flashlight. At any rate, I'm sure the ending of this season (crosses fingers) will be epic. One thing though, why is Kyou standing in the rain in the OP when we're not going to see that in the anime at all? I really thought they'd show more of her story because of that scene... Oh, and the camerangle after the OP with Ryou and Kotomi certainly was.... interesting. >.> And WHAT is Akio... err, smoking, at around 6 minutes into the episode? o.0 __________________ Last edited by Sammich; 2008-03-14 at 08:56.

2008-03-14, 06:48	Link #43
Ascaloth I don't give a damn, dude Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In Despair Age: 38	Watched the TWH-Sprocket sub of Episode 21. The first few minutes just about turned my brain to mush. Otherwise, pretty slow episode with little going on. 8/10. Blog article coming tonight.

2008-03-14, 07:00	Link #44
Ruhisu Tomoyo/Kotomi/Fuko fan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Poland Age: 37	This episode leaves big misteriours atmosphere because Nagisa finds out the past of her parents so we don't know how she will handle her play.

2008-03-14, 08:54	Link #48
arkxkra 全力全開 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Non-management 97th world	Spoiler for : 1 more episode, will be the end of the current story >.<", so fast, I will miss it, hopefully will have 2nd season of Clannad(AS). So the last 2 episode will be other story? Tomoyo wearing spec also not bad . Nagisa now blame herself after knowing her parent give up their dream for her, Tomoya should be the one cheer her up. hopefully she can do well in the stage in next episode. BTW, Tomoya and Nagisa no yet officialy a couple, when will the time for the real confession >.<". looking forward to next episode. __________________ \| Anime Series' Window XP/7 Theme \|

2008-03-14, 09:23	Link #49
DragoonKain3 Osana-Najimi Shipper Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Ordeals	Meganekko Tomoyo = <3. Almost up to Kotomi in my moe meter again lol. But really though, I dunno, but I feel so detached to both Tomoya and Nagisa now. Heck, that applies to all characters but Sunohara, who didn't get screentime. So yeah, I was half bored watching this episode. And if the next episode has something drastic happening, I dunno if I would actually feel anything at all to these characters. Oh well, nothing to do but wait and see. __________________ Yes its YOU childhood friend - source of BERZERKER RAGE since forever Childhood Friend couple STATISTICS(spoilers abound though)

2008-03-14, 10:28	Link #50
Kinny Riddle Gone for Good Join Date: Apr 2004	Please do not watch Clannad thinking it is another tear-inducer like AIR or Kanon, it is not. If you think it is, of course you will be justifiably disappointed, because you're looking at it from a different perspective which is not what the creators have intended. Though if you're just looking for a good story to tell, regardless of it being happy or sad, then Clannad is a safe bet for you. The first few minutes with the camera angles on Ryou and Kotomi was, interesting. And finally, we get to see Megane Tomoyo FTW. They're no doubt saving Tomoya's confession for Nagisa for the climax at the end of next episode, though in the game, they're already hanging out together for sometime. Unlike the game, the Drama Club now certainly look more like a school club with Kyou, Ryou and Kotomi involved. Guess you need at least 5 people for a school club to be decently lively, much like the "infamous" SOS Brigade. It was the most unfortunate of coincidences that led Nagisa to find out about her parents sacrificing their dreams for her, no doubt shaking her confidence greatly just before she was about to fulfill her dream of performing for the Drama Club. Poor girl. (BTW, doesn't Sanae-san look incredibly young in one of the photos carrying baby Nagisa? She hardly ages. Neither does Akio, for that matter. )

2008-03-14, 10:34	Link #51
grey_moon Yummy, sweet and unyuu!!! Join Date: Dec 2004	Glasses drool Glasses are so sexy drool Tomoyo looks so The tongue twister training session was mad. I hope they release the out takes to them trying to record that I am fearing a power tear fest next epi, I'm going to make sure I got plenty of snot rags ready... __________________

2008-03-14, 11:24	Link #52
Bankai29 Evenkurga wanna-be Join Date: Jun 2006	Tomoyo and Sanae = HAWTTTTTTTTT

2008-03-14, 11:29	Link #53
Deathkillz ~ You're dead ^__^* ~ Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: uk, England Age: 34	Spoiler: I honestly saw that coming from a mile away...but I can't say that it wasn't well done, though I still prefer some shock as the emotion from nagisa seems somewhat played down...or was she too shocked to speak. Ouch @ the angst akio must be feeling. I didn't expect him to have been an actor for one thing. Depressed Nagisa in the preview is depressed. I wonder how they are going to pull this one off. As for the rest of the ep it was fairly standard stuff. Nothing outstanding and somewhat slow paced. The tongue twister made no sense but was just funny to listen...and then there's tomoyo __________________ Siggy: hohohohoho~ \| AnimeHistory welcome to our blog ~ \| Summer2009 early review Under the radar series Summer2009: Kanamemo, GA Geijutsuka Art, NEEDLESS

2008-03-14, 11:44	Link #55
Proto Knowledge is the solution Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Louis, MO Age: 39	Hmm... I wonder why some people are criticizing the episode for being slow pased and uneventful. I myself would praise the character for being slow pased, and slice-of-life'ish uneventful. CLANNAD isn't an action flick, and while we might argue it is drama based and drama asks for things to happen on a more frequent basis, I'd say that drama is not the main theme CLANNAD revolves around. In the school arc it is something much more simple, yet much more meaningful, and that is growing up. Growing up is much more about sharing your memories with the people around you through day-to-day, common, simple events, and IMHO the episode succeeded at showing so. __________________ How to play Japanese games in Linux

2008-03-14, 11:56	Link #57
Ascaloth I don't give a damn, dude Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In Despair Age: 38	Blog article is up: [RIUVA] CLANNAD (TV), Episode 21 Warning: May contain traces of sociological rambling.

2008-03-14, 12:13	Link #60
Mirrinus Bemused Scholar Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	I didn't think the end of the episode with Nagisa's discovery of her parents' past was slow-paced at all. It was understated, to be sure, but to good effect. It gave the audience time to imagine their own notion of how Nagisa would react as she came to discover the journal and albums, what with the whole blatant Chekhov's gun and all.