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Old 2018-02-09, 22:32   Link #621
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After Ep4, I really hope this isn't all perfect coupling and there's some hidden cost to it.

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i swear i can't take Hiiro's in angsty mood pilot practicing scenes seriously with the training mech having a replica butt controls of all things, no entire body, only the butt & thighs........
I had to check just because that was too funny if I missed it. 11:30-ish from Ep2? Was gonna give the series the benefit of the double at the time, but given everything after that episode hard to argue against it. Honestly the "riding" butt joke doesn't even phase me in this show, what I don't get is how exactly this fighting works? It seems like the "pilot" is supposedly the one doing the work but also that he's not really? Especially for 002.

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That said, Black Cat anime actually presents the story somewhat more enjoyable than Yabuki's original manga .
Black Cat was fine at the time. Even a bit above average, considering that was the era of My-HiME and whatnot.
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Old 2018-02-10, 11:07   Link #622
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Old 2018-02-10, 12:09   Link #623
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so not quite daily show episode 4 analysis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O2Mpm1CGFY
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Old 2018-02-10, 12:24   Link #624
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I really hope Ichigo and Goro gets along better. Feels like they are further apart every episode ever since Zero 2 came into the picture. Speaking of which, I found this scene rather interesting:



Really hope we get a background story episode about Zero 2 in the future. Seems like pacing slowed down a little but I do expect business to pick up more soon.
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Old 2018-02-10, 12:41   Link #625
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Welp, Hiro biologically not being like the others confirmed. Instead of spurting red blood, he's turning blue. On top of the orphanage thing, I guess my radar is still working. With the OP as well hinting that demon-child 02 met up with someone, pretty much guarantees that it was Hiro who was that someone. Or at the very least, the originals that 02/Hiro were cloned from are confirmed to have met as kids. XD

Poor Ichigo and Goro though. I love Ichigo's character because she's just pretending to be strong, but I like Goro's bro moments as well. Normally the situation is gender reversed, with the female childhood friend being the one all naggy while the male childhood friend lets the MC do what he pleases the most, but it's nice to see a change.
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Old 2018-02-10, 12:42   Link #626
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No battle, but best episode so far

Anime needs more "evil" main heroine like this
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Old 2018-02-10, 12:48   Link #627
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Anime needs more "evil" main heroine like this
And look where that got Flay Allster...
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Old 2018-02-10, 12:50   Link #628
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Basically Hiro is a completely different parasyte that instead of being eated, he's absorbing something that's changing his body little by little. It doesn't seems like he's getting weaker or something like that but the whole theory of him turning into something that's not human seems possible right now.

Ichigo and Goro are in a very weird position thanks to how ichigo can't deal with her jealousy and the presence of Zero Two around Hiro all the time. That confrontation between her and 02 was something needed but she was the one who received the worst part.

Now another huge battle is coming and I feel like someone will die really soon.

The duality of Zero Two never disappoints.

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Old 2018-02-10, 12:56   Link #629
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And look where that got Flay Allster...
You can't compare her to Flay. That one ruined herself the moment she decided to purposely cuck her boyfriend to have Kira fight until he dies for "atonement" at failing to save her father, on top of being a racist.
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Old 2018-02-10, 13:01   Link #630
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Really liked this episode. The dynamics of 02, Hiro, Ichigo, and Goro are my favorite to learn about right now. 02 is feeling more and more like a monster as the episodes went on. I can see why Squad 26 was so shook when 02 came into the debriefing room. And when her headband came off...wow. I really liked that last scene with Hiro and 02; I didn't really know what to expect from their current relationship, but I didn't think that she would priortize Hiro's willingness to ride her over his health; she fuckin called that blue infection beautiful. When Hiro showed his resolve about continuing to pilot Strelizia and the whole 02 laughing and dancing with the CLASSIC pan to the sky shot...I enjoyed that scene.

Hiro's current condition makes me wonder about Mitsuru now. What affect did riding Streliza have on him? He's taking pills now, so maybe that's some indication. But clearly, it's not like what Hiro's going through now.
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Old 2018-02-10, 13:07   Link #631
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No battle, but best episode so far

Anime needs more "evil" main heroine like this
She's beyond the level of "koakuma" (devilish) at least. Some sort of "femme fetale" perhaps... but there's much we don't know about her.

Certainly it feels like she doesn't empathise with others in general. Would she even cry if Hiro died? Perhaps not but she would probably feel a sense of loss... but I suspect she wouldn't show it. She's very much alone and I'm guessing she's seen lots of people die so she doesn't even bother much anymore. While calling Hiro with a pet name like "darling" does sound close, in her own way she might be dehumanising him - ie doesn't even need to remember his name. Yet, she clearly does feel things from Hiro and is happy that he accepts her.

I suspect that when Hiro is able to survive longer term she'll start to change. ie the one who's most affected by Hiro surviving three times will probably be her rather than Hiro.
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Old 2018-02-10, 13:12   Link #632
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^Koakuma is not actually evil~
02 clearly doesn't care about people's lives

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And look where that got Flay Allster...
Flay wasn't a main heroine though

Heroines and sub-heroines there are many, but rarely we have a hateful main heroine

Gasai Yuuno and School Days' girls just insane, not quite similar to 02
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Old 2018-02-10, 13:30   Link #633
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Absolutely beautiful this episode, the symbolism of the butterfly and spider show exactly how much Hiro is in 02’s grasp yet Hiro is all fine with it as long as he get to pilot. Both Hiro and 02 are crazy, crazy and crazy make good pairing. Hiro really exceeded my expectations, as other protagonists in similar situation will be melodramatic on how they want to retain their humanity/life. This is the difference between a soldier (even though Hiro is still a child) and a high school student.

Then there’s 02, every scenes with her in it especially with Hiro is truly the highlight. I fucking love her.
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Old 2018-02-10, 13:46   Link #634
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5 bucks says when she's dying and he's crying, she's going to say, "oh look, you've finally made it rain."

all in all, a very good ep. setting up for the third ride, revealing more questions about 02, development for a lot of the characters. the spider/moth analogy really is a perfect representation of Hiro and 02's relationship. i like that Goro is finally developing feelings as well. He's always been the third wheel with Ichigo and Hiro, and now that it's just him and Ichigo, i think he'll move forward with her as well. likely in the shape of a power up when they need it.

i'm now 100% sure the aspect ratio change is used when there's only one course of action/the main subject of the scene is a spectator to what's happening to them. Ichigo has realized it, and got her's in the form of the dripping/leaky faucet that was prevalent when Hiro was washing his face. Then Hiro saw no other answer than to keep riding with 02 at the end of the ep.

i love this show. so many layers to read into.
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Old 2018-02-10, 14:03   Link #635
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You know, Kana Ichinose is doing a really good job voicing Ichigo considering this is her first notable role. She is a promising seiyuu .

Did someone brought up Flay Allster? Then I guess I'm gonna make a Gundam comparison too. Let's see....oh yeah:

I hope Mitsuru doesn't stay an insecure dick throughout the whole anime. The writer better take some notes from Yzak Joule of Gundam SEED who is basically a similar character to Mitsuru early in the series who then develops and becomes a better and (arguably) likable person. And speaking of Gundam character-comparison, they really need to develop that Futoshi dude. Right now, he is pretty much the stereotype of stereotypes. I mean, look at him: he's the fat one, the soft one, the cowardly one and the gluttonous one who lives for food basically. He is a far cry from another chubby character who is smart, sensible, brave and resourceful named Biscuit from Gundam IBO who breaks the mold of "dumb and cowardly fat side-characters". If Futoshi's thickly-stereotypical character need to stay that way, it better be part of some twist or something, anything that can put him above the "fatso"-trope. Please don't disappoint me, Franxx.
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Old 2018-02-10, 14:10   Link #636
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^Even his name is FUTO which means fat
This is not a deep series like Gundam though. In it's core, it's an MC centric series. Probably closer to harem series rather than to Multiple MCs series like Bokurano. At most like Valvrave and has possiblity to recreate that horrible ending
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Old 2018-02-10, 14:37   Link #637
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^Koakuma is not actually evil~
02 clearly doesn't care about people's lives
I already said she was beyond koakuma.

Anyway, if we take just her interactions with Hiro she's very different to if we just take her interactions with the others. If we consider her words in the opening of ep 1 and how she clearly seems nervous/shy/afraid around Hiro at times in ep 4 then I think it's clear that she cares about Hiro at least. And this is a guy she barely knows. So it's not that she doesn't care but that it takes something special for her to care.

Personally I suspect she's had so many people die on her that she's become numb to it (or something along those lines). If she intrinsically didn't care about people then she wouldn't be like this. Well, Hiro certainly believes this at least.

I want to see Hiro kiss 02 on her horns...
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Old 2018-02-10, 14:40   Link #638
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Any one else feel like Biscuit is going to be the first to snuff it in the group. Him and Kokoro just seem to be too nice.
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Old 2018-02-10, 14:43   Link #639
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It's too soon to make a judgement about 02 imho. If you paid attention she went nuts after Ichigo called her a monster. That indicates that she had a trauma in the past in relation to being called a monster. We don't know much about her yet. I wouldn't call her at this stage an evil main Heroine without having any knowledge about her past first. She clearly has some mental scares. And it's not like the other parasites are a bunch of good guys either, to be honest they are hypocrites. The only ones amongst them that I like so far are Goro, kokoro and Futoshi.

About Hiro seems like he's reacting differently compared to Mitsuru. As mentioned in the episode his blood acts differently from the other parasites. Looking forward to the next episode, seems like things are going to get serious from here on.

Ichigo really annoyed me this episode, I wish she could move on with her bossy and jealous attitude.

Just calling it ahead, I think the one we should pay attention to is Mitsuru, I don't like his attitude at all. he has an attitude of a backstabber mark my words.
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Old 2018-02-10, 14:50   Link #640
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If Hiro gets the opposite effect and that is a huge ass abnormal beyond understranding spike in yellow cells... than maybe the typical reaction was "huge yellow cells absorbtion". So those pills that Mitsuru takes are pills to help ballance out or produce more of the yellow cells in his blood stream, maybe after 3rides normal person is dried out of all yellow cells and the body cant hold it and the person dies.

I feel bad for Ichigo, she wanted to be mostly paired with Hiro who she had feelings for but ended up with Goro becouse she is compatibile with him, she mostly fell bad that she is not compatibile with Hiro, and that there is some other girl that is, yet she doesnt care for his well beign.

Goro on other hand is like between hammer and anvil, he is worried for Hiro's life but he wants to respect his decision... he would like to get closer with Ichigo but he knows that she has feelings for Hiro and he doesnt want to impose on her... he mostly feels like a 5th wheel

Next episode I am sure that Goro will burst and tell Ichigo about that blue parasite-skin on Hiro;s chest what will couse a synhro drop or synhro cut that will happen in the middle of the battle. Hiro maybe in order to save them from death will go full power with 02, that will couse the parasite to grow bigger and maybe at the end he will fell into coma or die (to get back to life later on). Ichigo and Goro will feel guilty of this

besides there is a tiny crack on 02 headband so I am sure that he going full power will have something to do with that, like she goes berserk and not responding so Hiro will use all of his power to stop her that might result in his own harm/death.
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