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Ap1001 · 2014-10-08, 17:46

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Originally Posted by ACertainStark

These fights seem to go really well with Touhou music.

Haha, danmaku everywhere. That does looks kind of like a danmaku battle, only less bullets.

ACertainStark · 2014-10-08, 17:49

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Originally Posted by Ap1001

Haha, danmaku everywhere. That does looks kind of like a danmaku battle, only less bullets.

Yeah. It's what I'm reminded of when I read the fights.

It shall be my soundtrack for this novel.

Marcus H. · 2014-10-08, 18:48

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My only complaint was that I have a hard time visualizing this one scene as I read it.

“One, simply using the Incense Grenade is meaningless. If it is not used while looking directly at the target individual, the Artificial Sacred Ground will not appear.”

The target individuals are the two Meinokawas.

“Two, no matter where the summoner and vessel are when the Incense Grenade detonates, they will be automatically moved to the center of the created Artificial Sacred Ground.”

“Three, the Artificial Sacred Ground will be constructed relative to the surface the Incense Grenade is touching when it detonates. This goes beyond the floor or the ground. If the Artificial Sacred Ground is created relative to the wall or ceiling, those inside can freely run around on the wall or ceiling!!”

Basically, what happens is that the Artificial Sacred Ground reestablishes where the "ground" is depending on where the Incense Grenade is thrown, and it pulls the target Summoner/s into the ASG automatically. It will be disadvantageous to the one targeted by the grenade thrower if he or she decides to switch the battlefield to somewhere that's not conventional. This is mainly the reason why Higan has been looking for a way to escape from the harbor while keeping herself away from line of sight; virtually anyone can drag them into a summoner fight as long as Incense Grenades are available.

Hiss13 · 2014-10-08, 19:01

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

“One, simply using the Incense Grenade is meaningless. If it is not used while looking directly at the target individual, the Artificial Sacred Ground will not appear.”

The target individuals are the two Meinokawas.

“Two, no matter where the summoner and vessel are when the Incense Grenade detonates, they will be automatically moved to the center of the created Artificial Sacred Ground.”

“Three, the Artificial Sacred Ground will be constructed relative to the surface the Incense Grenade is touching when it detonates. This goes beyond the floor or the ground. If the Artificial Sacred Ground is created relative to the wall or ceiling, those inside can freely run around on the wall or ceiling!!”

Basically, what happens is that the Artificial Sacred Ground reestablishes where the "ground" is depending on where the Incense Grenade is thrown, and it pulls the target Summoner/s into the ASG automatically. It will be disadvantageous to the one targeted by the grenade thrower if he or she decides to switch the battlefield to somewhere that's not conventional. This is mainly the reason why Higan has been looking for a way to escape from the harbor while keeping herself away from line of sight; virtually anyone can drag them into a summoner fight as long as Incense Grenades are available.

No I got that much. Sorry. I guess I should clarify.

My issue was more along the lines of the fact that I was having trouble visualizing the Meinokawa sisters standing upside down on the bottom surface of the monorail car.

Marcus H. · 2014-10-08, 19:32

This is the Chiba monorail, care of Oreimo.

dniv · 2014-10-08, 19:59

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

This is the Chiba monorail, care of Oreimo.

Woah, then that must be such a badass battle.

Hiss13 · 2014-10-08, 20:54

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Originally Posted by Marcus H.

This is the Chiba monorail, care of Oreimo.

Oh...OHHH!...
Now it makes sense...I completely forgot about the upside down monorails....

Pablete · 2014-10-08, 21:12

Sounds good on paper but after reading up to Chapter 2 I can say that this series isn't fit for anime material unless you want the watchers to endure the expositions. Which isn't a good thing though.

dniv · 2014-10-08, 22:03

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Originally Posted by Pablete

Sounds good on paper but after reading up to Chapter 2 I can say that this series isn't fit for anime material unless you want the watchers to endure the expositions. Which isn't a good thing though.

Um... the exposition doesn't seem that complicated... to be honest... and I'm sure they explain the battle system over time. I don't think it'd be that hard for them to do if they had explanation diagrams while showing the scenes. Also, anyone who enjoys Kamachi style stuff likes exposition so I don't see the problem. People who don't like info-dumps just like simple stuff. There's no point in them watching a complicated premise if they don't want to know how things work anyway.

ACertainStark · 2014-10-08, 22:05

The exposition is no where near as much as OT Index to me. This would fair well.

And honestly, that's the troubling part. One complaint I have for it.

Amanomurakumo · 2014-10-08, 22:07

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Originally Posted by ACertainStark

The exposition is no where near as much as OT Index to me. This would fair well.

Anyone here remember the Simpsons "Monorail" Episode?

Pablete · 2014-10-08, 23:27

Nobody remembers it.

Chaos2Frozen · 2014-10-09, 09:44

Exposition works fine so long as they have good visuals to go along with it.

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Anyone here remember the Simpsons "Monorail" Episode?

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Originally Posted by Pablete

Nobody remembers it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZBPoRwog00

Pablete · 2014-10-09, 10:21

^
Like Mahouka ? lol

Chaos2Frozen · 2014-10-09, 10:57

No idea, didn't watch it- but I was thinking more along the lines of Bakemonogatari which is 90% dialogue and/or exposition, heck I think Railgun did it okay as well.

dniv · 2014-10-09, 17:17

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No idea, didn't watch it- but I was thinking more along the lines of Bakemonogatari which is 90% dialogue and/or exposition, heck I think Railgun did it okay as well.

I agree. Railgun handles it very well.

Pablete · 2014-10-09, 17:34

Railgun is a bad example as its amount of exposition is little compared to this novel or Daihaseisai(which had to be butchered in the anime or else I would've died of boredom)

That's why I used Mahouka as a fair comparison with this one.

desrtsku · 2014-10-10, 10:00

^ Sayonara Zetsubou sensei is 100% exposition. Yet, I never yawned a single time while watching it. The reason is because it usually talks about subjects that touche people in their everyday life through the antics of over-eccentric characters and Shaft Powerpoint presentation gimmicks. Basically, it talks about something interesting that is also presented in a very appealing way for some viewers.

Mahouka anime is just bad at it, though. I fell right into Morpheus' arms the instant he started explaining how his Magic Jamming technique works, dammit, and that one was rather short. (and this is why I dropped every single episode that didn't have "heavy Onii-sama actions in them")

Pablete · 2014-10-10, 10:09

^

Right but what made SZS strong isn't this series forte.

casgoldsmith · 2014-10-10, 11:30

I love Zetsubou-sensei
He's so cool

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desrtsku Nympholept Join Date: May 2011 Location: Wonderland. Age: 32	^ Sayonara Zetsubou sensei is 100% exposition. Yet, I never yawned a single time while watching it. The reason is because it usually talks about subjects that touche people in their everyday life through the antics of over-eccentric characters and Shaft Powerpoint presentation gimmicks. Basically, it talks about something interesting that is also presented in a very appealing way for some viewers. Mahouka anime is just bad at it, though. I fell right into Morpheus' arms the instant he started explaining how his Magic Jamming technique works, dammit, and that one was rather short. (and this is why I dropped every single episode that didn't have "heavy Onii-sama actions in them") __________________

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casgoldsmith Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014	I love Zetsubou-sensei He's so cool __________________

2014-10-08, 21:12	Link #648
Pablete Banned Join Date: Jan 2014	Sounds good on paper but after reading up to Chapter 2 I can say that this series isn't fit for anime material unless you want the watchers to endure the expositions. Which isn't a good thing though.

2014-10-08, 22:05	Link #650
ACertainStark お姉さん☆ Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Toronto, ON Age: 31	The exposition is no where near as much as OT Index to me. This would fair well. And honestly, that's the troubling part. One complaint I have for it.

2014-10-08, 23:27	Link #652
Pablete Banned Join Date: Jan 2014	Nobody remembers it.

2014-10-09, 10:21	Link #654
Pablete Banned Join Date: Jan 2014	^ Like Mahouka ? lol

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Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	No idea, didn't watch it- but I was thinking more along the lines of Bakemonogatari which is 90% dialogue and/or exposition, heck I think Railgun did it okay as well.

2014-10-09, 17:34	Link #657
Pablete Banned Join Date: Jan 2014	Railgun is a bad example as its amount of exposition is little compared to this novel or Daihaseisai(which had to be butchered in the anime or else I would've died of boredom) That's why I used Mahouka as a fair comparison with this one.

2014-10-10, 10:09	Link #659
Pablete Banned Join Date: Jan 2014	^ Right but what made SZS strong isn't this series forte.