2022-05-26, 16:12 | Link #641 |
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He claims that he observed 10 Javelin ATGM strikes on Russian tanks and only one led to a K-kill.
I would take that with a sizeable pinch of salt. The tweet obviously is pro-russian and trying to make other like minded individuals pitch (or way or the other) into putin's war. But if russian tanks are basically coffins waiting to happen, people would be less likely to put their hard earned money (or time) into a futile endeavor. Yeah, I do know not all attacks on russian tanks are successful, but 1 in 10 is quite low, specially if you compare it with the: As many as 60% of Russia's missile strikes on Ukraine are failing to launch or don't explode on impact https://news.yahoo.com/many-60-russi...114321086.html |
2022-05-26, 17:17 | Link #642 | |
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1 in 10 k-kills doesn't mean 1 in 10 knocked out a Russian tank it means 1 in 10 outright went kaboom when hit. "as many as" is a meaningless number. |
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2022-05-27, 00:20 | Link #644 |
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That isn't what the article you linked says, it even goes so far as to state "They did not say why the rate could be so high, nor did they provide Reuters with any evidence of their assessment.", but anyway please control yourself and try to not make everything about Trump.
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2022-05-27, 03:44 | Link #645 | |
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Information coming from all side should be taken with a lot of salt, not only the russian suporting one.
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2022-05-27, 10:33 | Link #646 | ||
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I do believe that the USA government knew full well that putin had built a potemkin army that would fall apart faster than it did back in Afghanistan, even though they kept saying that Kiev would fall in a week and kept praising putin's "strategic genius" so he would get so full of himself as to make basic errors (that dictators are prone to do). |
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2022-05-27, 11:01 | Link #647 | |
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And speaking of Afghanistan, remember all the emergency evacuations that happened because US officials kept assuring people that Kabul was not going to fall? Or the aid worker and his kids that got droned because the intelligence community thought jugs of water were bombs (and insisted they had proof)? |
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2022-05-27, 14:07 | Link #648 | ||
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Said statements are conflicting only if you compare them to the russian state propaganda machine.
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The simply truth that just like in cuba, the USA gave money to a corrupt government, some people thought they would be better off with a local insurrection, but surprise, the new boss is worse than the old boss. |
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2022-05-28, 08:13 | Link #650 | |
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Not to mention that (again) it will look badly for the kremlin, losing the narrative once again (and for decades to come, truly a Vietnam mirror image). |
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2022-05-28, 20:55 | Link #651 | |
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2022-05-29, 18:20 | Link #652 |
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That would have happened anyway when people without experience or resolve as soon as they experience the battlefield first hand.
I took this quote from the CNN website from the turkish goverment about nordic countries being accepted into NATO: "We are determined to ensure that the process moves forward on a solid basis and that it progresses depending on the steps taken to meet Turkey's security concerns," Kalin said. It is just me or turkey is starting to sound like russia 3+ months ago. Also, dunno if it is true but heard that many russian conscripts contracts expire this month and they expect to quit faster than you can say "cannon fodder". BTW, no one is taking the bait to take their place, hence the removal of an upper age limit to be drafted into putin's "special operation". |
2022-06-03, 22:11 | Link #653 |
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https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status...Cw7ees1MUqAAAA
Improvised MLRS in pickup trucks as used by Ukrainian forces.
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2022-06-04, 00:19 | Link #654 |
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100 days of Ukraine's "denazification", but unlike stalin's attempt to "denazify" Finland, putin hasn't cut short his loses, he continues to double down. Of course he is afraid history repeating itself and putinism going the way of czarism.
The next 100 days we will se slowly but surely Ukraine retake territory while maximizing russian attrition. I do wonder if we will see in this period the conflict extend to belarus or chechenya, time will tell. The other day I heard china has been doing military exercises near the russian border, maybe russia will be divided before the antarctic! https://vividmaps.com/wp-content/upl...s-1024x576.jpg |
2022-06-07, 16:39 | Link #657 |
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probably not legal under forum rules to be posting them here, so I'm not linking.. there are some videos in reddit of russian soldiers being hit by drone bomb or stepping into explosives - with tiktok music added as they are dying. What's even weird is many people at that section of reddit are happy about that. I guess this is karma coming back to russians (due to all the misery they caused in Ukraine), where loss of human life if it's russian has become something to be celebrated and happy about.
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2022-06-07, 16:56 | Link #658 |
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That sort of karma can go both ways; the dehumanisation of one's foes is what leads to atrocities becoming increasingly heinous, and the trivialisation of death in memes similarly isn't helpful. Then again, we are talking about Reddit, where some of the internet's most depraved cretins operate out of: while I don't condone the war or invasion, the Redditors crossed a line and shouldn't be given any exposure, much less supported.
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2022-06-08, 03:51 | Link #659 | |
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That said, it's the Internet. Unless you're in China where what you say online could actually land you in a reeducation center, you can freely laugh at puppies being hypothetically thrown into a wood chipper...because, at the end of the day, you'll just rationalize (honestly or dishonestly, it doesn't matter) that it's just words and images on a screen, it's not exactly "real" because it's not happening in front of you, and, hey, there's not much enforceable accountability for your words in the first place, so why hold back and leave the filters on? Not a nice thought process, one must admit.
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2022-06-08, 12:58 | Link #660 | |
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A) Violence as a form of entertainment. The Coliseum in Rome is a clear example. We can rationalize it whatever we want, but it is there probably since the birth of civilization, where violence became the monopoly of the ruling class. B) Narratives on the internet. The Ukrainians clearly have the upper hand here, they have the technology and the will to use it. Meanwhile the russians do not have the technology (being in possession of a smartphone or camera but lacking the know how to edit a video is the same as not having it) nor the will (why do it if you are not getting paid). Besides, many russian soldiers won't like being filmed since they know later on their war crimes might catch up to them. |
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