2008-10-23, 00:41 | Link #641 | ||||
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about kaname .. etc but if she keeps focusing on zero , this is really sucks !! even yuuki didn't have the spot light as zero ! Quote:
maybe he will change his mind and do something or maybe not .. I think it's 50% lol Quote:
suffer and can't get close to yuuki , I think this black thing may help rido to get back ... reborn again still .. if yuuki do something , like giving him her blood .. maybe there is a chance to be cured and kicked Rido " if it's really him , I mean the black thing " by the way : is it only me or : that yuuki treating zero like kaname do to her ?? I mean till now I saw her feeling sorry for him , a pity not a love . " a couple " she indeed love him as a part of her family , as a brother .. but , still we can't know yuuki Thoughts ... |
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2008-10-23, 08:14 | Link #643 |
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Saw this Chapter 44 and I think Having to see Zero's
real (maybe) feelings about Yuuki made me think again... Yuuki's just so kind!? is there a girl like her ? Yet,my opinion towards Zero has now changed I see him as a better man than before. Than his Emo self.. I now think he wont be killed by Yuuki.. Since its Zero's feelings in this chapter predictions came to me in chapter 45 it might be about Kaname's feelings and hope a bit about his past. Wonder what does Yuuki feels? Great Chapter and Yuuki as a child so adorable! xD cant wait for the next one!(artbook too!) |
2008-10-23, 12:15 | Link #644 |
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After reading chapter 44, Yuuki's just too kind. Too kind for her own good. Zero's wondering what his problem with Kaname is, but it's just an insane bout of jealousy.
Drop the gun Zero. There's nothing to be gained from killing Yuuki. =/ Last edited by Droplet; 2008-10-23 at 12:27. |
2008-10-26, 14:06 | Link #645 | |
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Chp 44 was alright. I was itching for some more action but I guess the pacing needs to be slowed down alittle? But I was a bit sad that most of the stuff we already knew/saw, the only difference was that it was in Zero's narration. At least it's a nice setup for what's worst ( OR good ) to come between him and Yuuki. About the whole promise back then of Yuuki-killing-Zero-if he-goes-crazy thing, it depends entirely on Yuuki, not him. When Zero yelled at her on why he didn't kill him now, it's obvious of course Zero thinks himself as crazy but Yuuki on the other hand wielded her weapon without hesisitant but we haven't had any inside thoughts of her clearly yet ( probably in next chapter? ) Either she just sees the typical troubled Zero as always or she believes the time has come. She can either kill him now or not....or later. Eh. Oh yeah, I didn't understand the meaning of the last page of chp 44 The version I'm talking about is on Onemanga. ..unless it's an unfinished saying continued only to chapter 45? Last edited by Starry Dust; 2008-10-28 at 16:45. |
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2008-10-28, 02:29 | Link #646 |
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Reread it over and over again just for the art of Hino sensei's...
I've changed my mind. I think that the black thing behind Kaname is actually Kaname himself. Like Rido has the ability to shape-shifted himself with his blood; and the bat from Kaname's blood in ch 43... it's possible really. Those words are probably meant for Zero... of Ichiou. Who knows. Zero is actually a suicidal. That's the easiest way to describe him. He couldn't care less about living, and Yuuki is always there to stop him for meeting his maker. If you had your whole world crushed in front of your eyes, you could only think about dying in order to stop the pain. Zero is bound to the 'I will kill you, Zero' promise. Yuuki wouldn't do it. She (and Ichiru) are the people who wouldn't let him be. The end of ch 44 is just something that Zero thinks in the brink of insanity so that's that. |
2008-10-29, 00:48 | Link #647 | |
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I just realize that Yuuki's friend, Yuri, is a perfect balance to Zero's "kill all vampires". Despite finding out that Yuuki is a vampire, Yuri still calls her a dear friend - a complete opposite reaction to what we saw from Zero.
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2008-10-30, 03:52 | Link #648 | |
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and Yuuki, still Yori cares about Yuuki more (as a friend). Why Zero? Why Kaname? Dont let it be a yuri ending |
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2008-10-30, 18:09 | Link #649 |
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Even without the suicidal tendencies, Zero's prospects don't look too good right now. Sure, the descent has been postponed, and he's gotten pretty powerful, but it's still not clear just how much time he's bought by drinking Kaname's blood.
I'm not too sure if Yuri realizes just what Yuuki is, yet. Sure, on some level she understands that Yuuki and those other Night Class guys are vampires, but it probably hasn't really sunk in. And Yuri doesn't know about Yuuki being a pureblood, or even about what purebloods are, or just how monstrous their existence can be. Zero understands these things very well. Nevertheless, Yuri will probably stay Yuuki's friend. But for her to be Zero's antithesis, she needs to get a lot more information than she has right now. |
2008-10-30, 22:17 | Link #650 | |
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But I suppose if you consider the trauma that Yori might face witnessing a Vampire luncheon (or be one herself), she may be frightened but I still think she's capable of overcoming her fear and make Yuuki an exception, either way - unlike Zero.
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2008-11-02, 14:33 | Link #652 |
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Agreed. At least Yuuki has one true human friend she can count on. I wonder if Yori will play a more important role later on, especially when the school's vampire/human peace system seems to be breaking down now - putting everyone (human and vampire students alike) in real danger.
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2008-11-03, 13:50 | Link #653 |
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Ah, Yori discussion. <3 It's so rare to find these days.
Yori has actually always been apprehensive about the Night Class (even before the reveal), and she's always subtly supported Zero throughout the story. She accepts Yuuki because she's a kind and true friend, but I would not extend that acceptance to all vampires at this point. Yori's no vampire fangirl. She's not going to just accept all other vampires just because Yuuki is now a vampire. I don't for a minute think she's that foolish. I too hope that she will play a pivotal role in the future for Yuuki. She provides a nice counterpoint to Kaname and the Night Class's perspectives. She will be able to bring Yuuki the human perspective, since it seems inevitable that Zero will leave Yuuki's side for a good few upcoming chapters. |
2008-11-04, 14:05 | Link #654 | |
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In the next couple of chapters, it may be that the three will go separate ways to pursue their own beliefs/goals...all of which will ultimately converge together again in the end. What I want to know now is what Headmaster Cross is up to, since it seems that he has returned to the battlefield once again.
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2008-11-04, 15:33 | Link #655 | |
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I would say that chapter 44 makes it fairly clear that Zero accepts Yuuki as she is. He says that her gaze has not changed (and in 43 even told her that she had "done nothing wrong"), which implies that he accepts that she is still Yuuki, herself, despite having changed species. Zero's real problem isn't Yuuki's change or vampires themselves--it's himself, as chapter 44 has made pretty clear I think. He also mentions in the chapter when Yuuki's blood awakens (38 or 39 I think) that he sympathizes with both Yuuki and Kaname through their blood mixing in his body. His feelings for vampires, given this, are not nearly as clear as they may seem.
Yori's understanding of Yuuki as vampire comes from a completely different angle than Zero's. Yori wasn't brought up hunting vampires, viewing them as danger. She wasn't changed into a vampire herself, and therefore knowing the dangers firsthand. Her experience with vampires is on a wholly different level than Zero's (and, I might add, a far less knowledgeable one), and to expect him to react in exactly the same manner is probably too much. So while yes, I agree that Yori is a great example to the other characters in the story, I think Zero's coming to the same answer in his own way. His perspective is just different than Yori's though. Quote:
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2008-11-04, 18:04 | Link #656 |
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I hope to finally see, in the next chapters, Kaien's past. Too much tension around him, and I'm dying to know his reasons to start the school. I mean, he used to be a hunter, a really good one, and what made him change his mind?
And about separated routes, If I ever have to see Yuuki alone (with no Kaname or Zero) for more than two or three chapters, I drop this manga. |
2008-11-04, 22:47 | Link #657 |
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I think humans who had no former awareness of vampires would act much like Yori did. At the moment, we've only been exposed to her first impressions. Given that Yori has been quite a stable character throughout the series though, I'm pretty sure she'll support Yuuki all the way. Zero, on the other hand, has experienced deaths of loved ones at the hands of vampires, and was born a hunter.. so his acceptance of vampires will be more time-consuming. I say this because I don't doubt that he will eventually overcome his hate of them. As aforementioned, chapter 44 has already shown the beginning of his acceptnace of Yuuki. Hopefully his slow welcoming of vampires will also lead to self-acceptance on his behalf. What I really want to see is Zero being sincerely happy in the true sense of the word, and smiling with all of his heart.. ever since the beginning of the series, he hasn't been given a break. =[
I agree, we need more Kaien and Yagari!! xD Regarding Kaien's past.. wasn't Juuri involved? I would really really love to see their backstory. ^^; I wonder if their past is supposed to be reminiscient of Zero and Yuuki.. ? I've always wondered about that.. There IS so much more left for the manga to cover! I'm also really looking forward to Yuuki's reentrance (or maybe her primary entrance, since she was never properly introduced) into the vampire society. I also want to learn more about the Kuran ancestor, who Kaname is supposed to be. Right now, I'm actually a bit confused over the whole ancestor-brother ordeal (still xD). ^^; A little clarification would greatly be appreciated. =P (I get that Kaname is the ancestor in Haruka and Juuri's son's body, but.. I want to know how Rido resurrected him, what happened to the Kuran ancestor-guy, etc.) Now that I think about it, I wonder how I expected the manga to end soon. xD There are so many loose ends to tie up! I'm guessing that either Zero will probably leave for a chapter or two (probably more.. but I don't want that )=) and try to elimate the world from more purebloods (or something along those lines).. =X Or he may go and possiby support Yuuki from the get-go. But I think that he has to grow a bit more before he can get to that point. I also worry that he will become the next antagonist. Since it's somebody who has already been introduced, there's a likely chance it will be either Zero or Kaname. Or the tables can turn and it can be somebody unexpected, or there will be some sort of twist. ^^; I can't even imagine.. either way, I hope the next chapter has some immediate action and decision-making. Even though I loved that the last chapter had some nice Zero POV.. I was really itching for some important choices to be made. xD Last edited by Mirakuru; 2008-11-04 at 22:53. Reason: speeeelling xD |
2008-11-06, 21:45 | Link #659 |
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Little question I have. I ask here because probably it'll bring some spoilers, maybe.
So, what is Rido to Shiki? Rido refers to Shiki as "son" but, as far as I understand, Rido is a pureblood and Shiki isn't, so I find it hard for them to be related. Probably is something I missed while reading, but just in case |
2008-11-06, 22:28 | Link #660 | |
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