Infinite Stratos Character Creation and Fanfiction Discussion

[blitz1/2]

The problem with using the whole character with the traumatised childhood soldier for ocs, is that most writers easily fit them into regular life/school life like JUST like that. Even for somebody that is traumatised from war, they are very prone to avoid environment/certain stimuli that remind them of their tragedy. For example, for a child soldier who was forced to kill somebody with a knife may have second thoughts when they touch a cooking blade or etc.

We have Sagara Sousuke from FMP, while his side is done with a tinge of 2D humour, putting it realistic, it may take MANY years to readjust to a new life, especially from one that is filled with wartime trauma.

[ZeroXSEED]

@Meister
*Sounds of head asplode*
So all your original OC is secondary characters? What the-

@Blitz
Thanks for the explanation, this is what I planned for Laura's 'development' (note, tiny adjustment of personality along the story).

[blitz1/2]

From what I read of your fic in fanfiction.net, your characters haven't fallen into THAT trap yet, as they are still fighting/still soldiers, they haven't TRANSITIONED to a normal, peaceful life. That's why they are not prone to traumas, as they are RESISTANT and as I learned in English class (oh boy....) "Hard boiled."

[DarkJak2050]

Originally Posted by Eratas123

@ Zero - Everybody seems to be switching from "Guy who can use an IS" to "Guy that uses a machine as strong as an IS". At least Jak's suit is confirmed to be weaker than the IS suits.

@ Meister - She's lucky Irish's aggressiveness was taken out by Silver or she'd be full of injuries. Sorry if I gave Karon a berserk button for being flat. But you have to admit, it would be pretty insulting for a girl to find a guy has a bigger chest than her.

I didn't quite say that...

Originally Posted by blitz1/2

From what I read of your fic in fanfiction.net, your characters haven't fallen into THAT trap yet, as they are still fighting/still soldiers, they haven't TRANSITIONED to a normal, peaceful life. That's why they are not prone to traumas, as they are RESISTANT and as I learned in English class (oh boy....) "Hard boiled."

If you're refering to mine, then yeah. Near the end of Ch. 3 shows that Hot Shot's not all that okay psychologically, and Sideswipe is starting to get concerned about him.

[ZeroXSEED]

Originally Posted by DarkJak2050

I didn't quite say that...

WAT

[MeisterBabylon]

Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED

@Meister
*Sounds of head asplode*
So all your original OC is secondary characters? What the-

Because they were created around a main core cast to fill in the gaps, they had to be made from scratch. Even then, I dreamed them up based on certain character stereotypes without much attention to their histories, unlike the cores, who have abilities, roles, lines and synergies all planned out.

I think Marv and Karon are quite original. While they have many familiar elements, I just took the most of their stereotypes and either turned it on its head (Marv) or in Karon's case just run as far as I can with it.

Those "secondary" characters are mains in their own story. Should I ever get to write Vandam Joaquim, then we'll learn about matters between Kajie, Li Zhiqing, Heidi Bodewig, Orimura Chifuyu and Shinonono Tabane.

Sidenote: Last Exile reminds me of the time I still built vast worlds with deep traditions. I guess while most of Vandam II's setting is borrowed from local culture, I do find myself thinking in terms of the entire backdrop when writing about people, including their habits and slang.

[DarkJak2050]

Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED

WAT

You'll just have to wait, man...

The combat armor that's in the story so far (Flashbacks), are the ones my guys used when they were mercenaries. Not the Silverbacks.

[blitz1/2]

I read Astro Exodus, first of all, the synopsis needs work because the fact that the author says that another machine for males to RIVAL the IS is already going to set off Red Stu possible flags.

Suggestion, change it to "a new machine has been developed, will this change the balance of power of the genders once more?" or something like that, something that doesn't indicate it HAS to be a male that pilots it.

Next, Rong is ringing in that he is practically close to omniscient in terms of personality and IS knowledge which does not bode well with me. And next, nobody even knows if Chifuyu has got a bro-con tendency for the canon characters (other than Maya MAYBE).

[EthernalRain]

@ Eratas: The same friend from before made me play MW3, so I was gone for a bit.

Anyway, Kyuukai's probably a stu. I think, since my knowledge on them is lacking. Also, why he's so adjusted to the Academy and people are somewhat comfortable of his age...

That's something I hope to explain in a VOTP. Also, Kyuukai's stability is an issue. In chapter 11, he was very close to slitting Ichika's neck because he forgot he wasn't in a combat situation.

And he keeps up a mask for Laura's sake and the sake of his mother's sanity. It's good enough to fool himself, keep him stable enough to live life as "normal" as he can make it.

[blitz1/2]

Originally Posted by DarkJak2050

If you're refering to mine, then yeah. Near the end of Ch. 3 shows that Hot Shot's not all that okay psychologically, and Sideswipe is starting to get concerned about him.

That's good, at least you are providing indication that even though they are soldiers, they still suffer the same flaws as some of us, they are humans and are prone to change due to certain 'events'. As long as you don't shove the change drastically and without purpose, you should be fine.

[ZeroXSEED]

@ Rain
In my opinion "Probably a Stu" fits him better than "Marty Stu", since Stuism itself is very sensitive and subjective matters, the only problem is to please the largest crowd and you succeed at doing that. I actually go WTF when reading your story (before I join this forum) but in later chapters I was convinced that your story is a good example how to do an OC right.

About Exodus, yep, Rong actually Screams "Marty Stu" in my standard.

[blitz1/2]

Originally Posted by ZeroXSEED

@ Rain
In my opinion "Probably a Stu" fits him better than "Marty Stu", since Stuism itself is very sensitive and subjective matters, the only problem is to please the largest crowd and you succeed at doing that.

About Exodus, yep, Rong actually Screams "Marty Stu" in my standard.

That actually reminds me of that Sekirei fic that I wrote back a long time ago (and dropped), the thing was that (if you know the sekirei plot) was that my fic was dealing with the alien race as a TOTALITY, not just the main canon characters and thus, because I placed more emphasis on the others, my characters were just labelled as a sue and I already mentioned that the main characters aren't going to get main roles, or just as cameos....A fan side story does not always have to shout SUE at you. -_-

[EthernalRain]

@ blitz: It's a sad day when you realize you have/want to drop a story. I dropped my first fanfic ever, a Negima one... Put over one hundred thousand words in it for about 7 reviews. I loved the plot so much... Well, at least my character and his story lives on in a still-running yet long existing RP.

@ Zero: That's nice to hear/read.

[ZeroXSEED]

@ Blitz

You mean Light of Ascension? Too bad the chapter actually gave me some explanation about Sekirei.

Originally Posted by EthernalRain

@ blitz: It's a sad day when you realize you have/want to drop a story. I dropped my first fanfic ever, a Negima one... Put over one hundred thousand words in it for about 7 reviews. I loved the plot so much... Well, at least my character and his story lives on in a still-running yet long existing RP.

Kinda sad, the same goes with me (it's called Dissonant Lyrics, a Nanoha fanfic). In my case, being tired of fandom's whining prompt me to stop.

Originally Posted by EthernalRain

@ Zero: That's nice to hear/read.

You welcome.

[MeisterBabylon]

Here's the next bit of IS Vandam II

Spoiler for Scene 3:

Scene 3

The whine became higher-pitched, then a pair of machine hawks screamed out from the forests of Sumatra and passed over terraced rice fields. Children playing on the dirt paths stopped to gape, as a sun-dried farmer tilled on.

“Limbo Deck, this is Eagle Four," the first craft radioed. "Patrol complete, RTB now.”

The Lim Bo Seng flight control responded without a pause.

“Eagle Four, this is Limbo Deck. You are clear for landing. Vector of approach 2B, slot A.”

“Acknowledged, Limbo Deck. Make sure there’s room for 5; Jimmy’s a little shell-shocked from almost running into a seagull.”

Kajie looked over his shoulder at the other F35MC Rapier. His wingman, Eagle Seven, was giving him the finger.

“Shut up, you damn White Horse,” the other man replied with mock anger. "Just because your father is the ol' captain..."

"You did lose to me about 3 seconds in maneuvers back there, didn't you?"

"It was a PRACTICE run, PRACTICE!" Jimmy complained. "I'm not going to kill the local wildlife just to stoke my ego!"

"Ah, I see," Kajie laughed as the fleet came into view.

"I'm going in first."

"Yes, yes," Jimmy grunted.

The two fighters continued onwards, and soon roared on to the rippling Malacca Strait.

On the ground below, hidden beneath the dense brush, a monocle buzzed on a deep blood red.

Now things begin to move.

[blitz1/2]

Originally Posted by MeisterBabylon

Here's the next bit of IS Vandam II

Spoiler for Scene 3:

Scene 3

The whine became higher-pitched, then a pair of machine hawks screamed out from the forests of Sumatra and passed over terraced rice fields. Children playing on the dirt paths stopped to gape, as a sun-dried farmer tilled on.

“Limbo Deck, this is Eagle Four," the first craft radioed. "Patrol complete, RTB now.”

The Lim Bo Seng flight control responded without a pause.

“Eagle Four, this is Limbo Deck. You are clear for landing. Vector of approach 2B, slot A.”

“Acknowledged, Limbo Deck. Make sure there’s room for 5; Jimmy’s a little shell-shocked from almost running into a seagull.”

Kajie looked over his shoulder at the other F35MC Rapier. His wingman, Eagle Seven, was giving him the finger.

“Shut up, you damn White Horse,” the other man replied with mock anger. "Just because your father is the ol' captain..."

"You did lose to me about 3 seconds in maneuvers back there, didn't you?"

"It was a PRACTICE run, PRACTICE!" Jimmy complained. "I'm not going to kill the local wildlife just to stoke my ego!"

"Ah, I see," Kajie laughed as the fleet came into view.

"I'm going in first."

"Yes, yes," Jimmy grunted.

The two fighters continued onwards, and soon roared on to the rippling Malacca Strait.

On the ground below, hidden beneath the dense brush, a monocle buzzed on a deep blood red.

Now things begin to move.

Decepticons Vandams mobilise... xD

[ZeroXSEED]

Gou Kajie, F-35MC, Take-off!

*Cue awesome music from TM Revolution*

[Eratas123]

Damn I missed a lot! Better get to typing.

@ Jak - You showed us a video of the Silverbacks capabilities did you not? I'd say it's weaker than an IS.

@ Rain - The only thing is that incident with Ichika was an accident. Irish dips into psychosis at periods of time and he obviously has no restraint since he doesn't hesitate to stab anyone no matter their affiliation.

Irish isn't adjusted to society which is why he frequently doesn't think much of murder and other heinous acts. He was conditioned not to, that's why he had no hesitation kidnapping Cecilia and jumping onto Ichika's mech.

[EthernalRain]

@ Eratas: Another major difference between Irish and Kyuukai would be that Kyuukai has had quite a few world changing resolutions. One would take effect for a while, shaping his view of the world, then another would come along, skewing the old view over and taking its place. The process has repeated from age 6 onwards, so Kyuukai's psychological profile has ebbed and flowed over the years. Sometimes he's stable, sometimes he isn't.

Irish's psychological profile is more linear, I think. Maybe. I don't really know exactly , sorry. But he seems to have a different set/class of circumstances shaping his ideals and mentality, so he gets leeway and the right to be declared psychologically unstable and to snap whenever.

[ZeroXSEED]

LOL.
Here's Dan's scene

Spoiler for spoiler, obviously:

~DAN POV~

That Madoka sure is cute eh? But really, genetics don’t work that way, for them to be eerily resembles each other is really strange, even if they’re Half identical twins (from same ovum that split into two).

I might paid to much attention, should just dismiss it, besides, those two also resembles their older sister… maybe Orimura genes just that strong.

But that aside, how exactly he missed the fact that Madoka saw him not only as brother but something else, or maybe I’m just that perceptive… no, either he’s super blind or in denial…

Probably the latter.

“Feh, either way, how lucky”

“Lucky what?

That voice, even though it’s neither husky nor hoarse, it’s still getting terrifying. The owner of that Voice would be Ran, my little sister.

“Umm, dunno, I mean, tomorrow is ISVR opening and I somehow get invited” Rotated my chair, I tried to laugh.

“And HOW exactly you got invited” Her big, rounded eyes gazing sharply into mine, oh God, suffer not me to die painfully.

“Connections… yep”

“That aside, why don’t you tell Ichika-san came to visit?”

So finally that question came…

“If I tell you, you’ll abandon your assignment in school”

“That’s doesn’t matter” Wailed onto my face, she unleashed her restrained wrath, calm down man, you can solve this.

“He actually said ‘oh how Diligent, even though normally girls spend their Saturday night with friend or a boyfriend’! Had he knew you being absent from school activity, what would he think?”

I grinned at her, though I was serious saying that. After the departure of Rin, and precisely after that one incident, Ichika has 180 degrees turning point, he became a diligent, straight A’s student, ranked 10 in the final exam.

He also tried to forget his attempt at getting part-time job, which considering our age is definitely illegal. Though with the help of my ‘connections’, getting job would be easy and our attempts came into fruition, both of us look older than our actual age anyway…

“Fine then, but next time I’ll not forgive you”

Can’t I have less dangerous sister?

*BLAM!*

I looked at my Journal; tomorrow will be a good day to resume the research once again.

With that determination, I fell asleep.

“Why don’t you guys just apologize and gone with it” Ichika laughed manically as his first strike broke his target’s teeth, his fist is bleached with the blood of our enemy.

Those feelings, sense of domination and bloodlust, somehow both familiar and alien at the same time.

As a switchblade flew toward me, somehow managed to deflect it with his leather bag.

“TOMOKI?! WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING HERE?!”

“There’s no way I’ll run…”

“Are you stupid or what?!”

“I know I’m not strong, I’m weak and useless… but I’ll pave my road along with you guys! I’m not going to chicken out!”

I was awake in the middle of night… that dream, that nightmare that sometimes haunting me in the night…

Silver switchblade, memento of these days, darkest day of my and Ichika’s Junior High…

Paving his way to the top… he gathers the so-called underdogs under his flag…

Do you remember that feelings, Ichika?

Uh, I think I went a little overboard and OOC....