Claymore Chapter 99

[Arturro]

Originally Posted by Shiek927

Anyone find it weird that none of the Ghosts sensed Riful's supposed death?

Few explanations:
1. Riful was completely drained from yoki, she was unable to regenerate herself. Isley died when he was in his awakened form, her yoki emission was probably at level of average yoma.
2. Compared to new salvo of rods and appearance of Priscilla Riful death wasn't really important. Ghost have more important things (like survival) to do. In other words Riful death wasn't worth mentioning in that little time they have now.
3. Their best yoki sensor - Clare - went mad because of Priscilla. IMHO she sensed Riful death, but she is not able to speak about it.

Add reasons you mentioned and it's not so surprising that no one mentioned Rifuls death.

[Shiek927]

Originally Posted by Arturro

Few explanations:
1. Alicia was completely drained from yoki, she was unable to regenerate herself. Isley died when he was in his awakened form, her yoki emission was probably at level of average yoma.
2. Compared to new salvo of rods and appearance of Priscilla Riful death wasn't really important. Ghost have more important things (like survival) to do. In other words Riful death wasn't worth mentioning in that little time they have now.
3. Their best yoki sensor - Clare - went mad because of Priscilla. IMHO she sensed Riful death, but she is not able to speak about it.

Add reasons you mentioned and it's not so surprising that no one mentioned Rifuls death.

1)...I'm a little confused, what does Alicia have to do with anything?

, unless you were talking about Riful. That point doesn't make any sense, because she wasn't completely depleted, not like Luciella was, she just couldn't regenerate like Isley. Isley didn't have much energy either and his energy still was felt far off, because no one has a power like his.

Thing is, it's not amount, it's quality. Even if they don't have much, their youki is still the most recognizable.

Oh well, whatever

[Arturro]

Originally Posted by Shiek927

1)...I'm a little confused, what does Alicia have to do with anything?

, unless you were talking about Riful.

My mistake

OM chapter 97 page 12. Riful herself said that she has no more strength left. Most probably she was talking about yoki, so she was depleted from yoki. Even if some yoki left, her signature should be suppressed by much stronger signatures of Priscilla and Raciella. Good yoki sensors, like Clare, might be able to sense her death, Helen and Deneve shouldn't.

[MisterJB]

Originally Posted by Shiek927

she wasn't completely depleted, not like Luciella was,

Why do you say that Luciela completely depleted her Yoki?
Because she couldn't transform into her Awakened form? If so, then Riful was in the same situation. She said it in chapter 97, page 11, just like Arturro pointed out.

Isley died when he was in his awakened form, her yoki emission was probably at level of average yoma.

In chapter 90 page 5, Galatea classified Isley's Yoki, rigth before his death, as huge.

[Shiek927]

Why do you say that Luciela completely depleted her Yoki?
Because she couldn't transform into her Awakened form? If so, then Riful was in the same situation. She said it in chapter 97, page 11, just like Arturro pointed out.

.......Hah! Good point, Roflmao XDXDXDXD

I think what threw me off is when Dauf told Riful to attack Alicia when she was distracted. If she was depleted, how could she? Maybe not having enough strength to awaken isn't the same as being "depleted" which implies you have nothing left whatsoever.

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Right MisterJB; i think that goes along with what I was saying before; I don't think it's possible to be "depleted" in the sense the person has no youki at all. They just don't have enough strength to defend themselves or do whatever it is they want to do.

Isley and Riful both have youki's unlike any other as Abyssals; even "depleted", I can't believe nobody would recognize them, even and especially at death. Nevertheless, Isley had much more youki then either Riful or Luciella because he died while still in awakened form.

[Awakened]

Isley was also falling apart in his Ab form, just like Cynthia.

[Ulquihorror]

my theory is that riful didn't die. she was about to get eaten by puriaschiillilia but was saved when clare released her yoki and got puriaschiillilia thinking:"zomfg, need to check this out"

[Shiek927]

Originally Posted by Awakened

Isley was also falling apart in his Ab form, just like Cynthia.

Except Cynthia is not an awakened....

[Ulquihorror]

I hope cynthia awakens and stays gentle so Yuma can have an awakened friend

[clarakiss~]

if cynthia does awakened and stays with yuma, they'd have to leave ghost. miria will see cynthia as a threat.

[Shiek927]

Italian translation came out...

In particular, this one, with regards to the first page monologue, emphasizes the objective that she is trying to reach and Raki is the best way there.

But in particular, what really grabs me is the new word to add to our list: with regard to Raki, we have scent, and Gernot's translation and the French translation that complicate it(the whole "source" stuff and her reaching the source etc), but you know what the Italian scanlation says?

"in quella neve, circondata dal fetore dell' immondizia, del sangue e della carne marcia...
il profumo familiare che emanava
mi fece riacquisire i sensi
i miei ricordi non tornarono completamente,
ma capii che lui era la persona in grado di guidarmi verso il mio obiettivo...
da quel giorno iniziai a seguirlo.
e non mangiai più ne sangue ne budella."

In half the translations I get, I keep getting "family perfume"

The other half, I get "familiar scent" or some variation of it. I tried looking up various translations of the word, and, alongside words like "normal, usual, habitual," etc etc, Family is a word that keeps popping up(alongside relatives, relations, and other words basically for family). Obviously the second word is basically the scent(though Perfume? I had no idea Raki smelled THAT good. Some may wonder though, since he's a male, he should smell like cologne ).

Users who are more versed in Italian may agree or disagree with this, but It does give you food for thought huh? We've all known that Raki has the same smell as his southern home, but him having the same overall scent or feeling as her family makes it much more personal. Considering the difference between Raki showing up and her, it's impossible they could have ever met as children or something(unless he has met her relatives, or he's actually related to Priscilla and he doesn't know it), and as far as we know, they live(d) in two different locations: Raki in the arid Doga-Plains, and Priscilla in Musha(whether that's a specific locale or the entire southern region, we don't know).

[Lynn Alstreim]

I think that the only chance for Cynthia and Yma to be alive is to get help from Miria and Galatea. After all the things that has happened. Probably they will come to the East.
Esley and Rifl are all dead, after all.
What if Miria happened to save Cynthia?

[Ryuken]

Originally Posted by Lynn Alstreim

What if Miria happened to save Cynthia?

Don't know about this, but I think they should be able to take care of themselves, without Miria and Galatea's help.

[Awakened]

Uma and Cynthia needs a power-up. Half awakening coming up.


If Clare is able to stand up to Priscilla, the manga might end soon. Clare would be overpowered.

[camilla]

Originally Posted by Shiek927

Italian translation came out...

In particular, this one, with regards to the first page monologue, emphasizes the objective that she is trying to reach and Raki is the best way there.

But in particular, what really grabs me is the new word to add to our list: with regard to Raki, we have scent, and Gernot's translation and the French translation that complicate it(the whole "source" stuff and her reaching the source etc), but you know what the Italian scanlation says?

"in quella neve, circondata dal fetore dell' immondizia, del sangue e della carne marcia...
il profumo familiare che emanava
mi fece riacquisire i sensi
i miei ricordi non tornarono completamente,
ma capii che lui era la persona in grado di guidarmi verso il mio obiettivo...
da quel giorno iniziai a seguirlo.
e non mangiai più ne sangue ne budella."

In half the translations I get, I keep getting "family perfume"

The other half, I get "familiar scent" or some variation of it. I tried looking up various translations of the word, and, alongside words like "normal, usual, habitual," etc etc, Family is a word that keeps popping up(alongside relatives, relations, and other words basically for family). Obviously the second word is basically the scent(though Perfume? I had no idea Raki smelled THAT good. Some may wonder though, since he's a male, he should smell like cologne ).

Users who are more versed in Italian may agree or disagree with this, but It does give you food for thought huh? We've all known that Raki has the same smell as his southern home, but him having the same overall scent or feeling as her family makes it much more personal. Considering the difference between Raki showing up and her, it's impossible they could have ever met as children or something(unless he has met her relatives, or he's actually related to Priscilla and he doesn't know it), and as far as we know, they live(d) in two different locations: Raki in the arid Doga-Plains, and Priscilla in Musha(whether that's a specific locale or the entire southern region, we don't know).

"Profumo familiare" can be translated as "familiar scent" or "familiar perfume", which have nothing to do with "family perfume". "Profumo" 's main meaning is "perfume" but it also means scent, fragrance etc. ( though each of these words has a more specific translation: profumo = perfume; scent = odore, profumo; fragranza = fragrance ). Another Italian translation uses "profumo" too. But if you keep reading, you'll find that soon after it has "odore" ( = scent ). What I think is interesting is that the sentence in question was also translated as "grazie al profumo sulla sua pelle ( thanks to the scent/perfume on his skin ) la mia coscienza si risvegliò" ( my conscience awakened/woke/awoke again ). I know it may be confusing and make you wonder about what happened when Priscilla awakened: did only her body awaken and not her mind ( doubtful ), or both her mind and body did and Priscilla's monologue in chapter 99 came from one of her other personalities that awoke again after she smelt the scent on Raki? So, why didn't they choose "awoke/awoke again" as in this personality of hers was sleeping before she smelt the scent on Raki's skin? Note that according to this translation the scent is not Raki's, it's only on his skin. If they intended "the perfume of his skin", they would have written "il profumo della sua pelle". Believe me, last week I even found another translation that had "her scent on his skin". Please remember that this isn't the original in Japanese so don't give importance to what I just told you. Apparently, this part can be interpreted in different ways, it's vaguer than usual or Yagi wanted it to be this vague on purpose.

[Arkham]

I think Cynthia will die (or even something worse)
Those wounds are serious business!

But I guess Yuma may be able to pull of a miracle

[irvinethearcher]

Perhaps they will be rescued by galatea with yoki synchronization. Otherwise i fear perhaps even both of them will get real problems.
Miria probably will arive late, as always.

[MisterJB]

Originally Posted by Arkham

I think Cynthia will die (or even something worse)

What is worse than dying?

[Arkham]

Originally Posted by MisterJB

What is worse than dying?

Well, I think that would be Awakening and then being killed by youre friends.
Something like that...

[Awakened]

Originally Posted by Shiek927

Except Cynthia is not an awakened....

Cynthia did not awaken, but she shows what happen when you are out of usable yoki. Your body falls apart.

Isley body was falling apart. I think he forced himself to stay in Ab form.