Nymphet [Kodomo no Jikan]

[Lexan]

Well, As for ep.11, w/o spoiling anything, let's just say Anime version "deviates" from the original manga, hastening the process of Reiji's internal struggle.

Now, for more in depth analysis,

Spoiler for Anime version:

In manga, Reiji is home late on the "gym storage room lock in" incident. So Reiji returns home and finds Rin asleep. In anime, he comes home in the evening, not knowing where Rin is. He looks everywhere for her, and finds her in storage room WITH Aoki alone. Then slam! A punch for the teacher! As far as I know, Anime made the escalating actions more dramatic to hasten the story telling (like Reiji's obesssion and Aoki's fear that he might be a pedophile at the end of ep.10), and I think the endings might be quite different in anime and manga versions.

One more thing; I'm disappointed with Anime version for not exploring Shiro-chan's "soft side" enough... She still seems like a B**ch in anime, but a lot more likeable person in manga.

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by Lexan

Well, As for ep.11, w/o spoiling anything, let's just say Anime version "deviates" from the original manga, hastening the process of Reiji's internal struggle.

Now, for more in depth analysis,

Spoiler for Anime version:

In manga, Reiji is home late on the "gym storage room lock in" incident. So Reiji returns home and finds Rin asleep. In anime, he comes home in the evening, not knowing where Rin is. He looks everywhere for her, and finds her in storage room WITH Aoki alone. Then slam! A punch for the teacher! As far as I know, Anime made the escalating actions more dramatic to hasten the story telling (like Reiji's obesssion and Aoki's fear that he might be a pedophile at the end of ep.10), and I think the endings might be quite different in anime and manga versions.

One more thing; I'm disappointed with Anime version for not exploring Shiro-chan's "soft side" enough... She still seems like a B**ch in anime, but a lot more likeable person in manga.

Well in all fairness it's all a matter of time management. The anime is only 12 or 13 episodes long I think so it's only natural that they have no chose but to skip some impotent details. I'm still curious on how they plan to end the whole thing.

Also let try not to talk on the anime in the manga section. It's agents the rules you know.

Oh and the the translation for Chapter 33 is out!

[tebahpla]

its already been out for almost (or more than)a week actually

so go grab em guise!!

also I take back what I said 1 page before because i re read chap 33 again

Spoiler:

and yes the shoe matches.

[NaweG]

Originally Posted by tebahpla

yes, i wanted to point out that the shoe person wasnt reijis co-worker. didnt match at all

Anyone else think it might be Shiro's boots? That after chap 32 she might be inclined to check out what's going on for herself?

[tebahpla]

i wanted to but crap I reformated and baleeted everything, too lazy to dl again.

[shinobiknight0]

Originally Posted by NaweG

Anyone else think it might be Shiro's boots? That after chap 32 she might be inclined to check out what's going on for herself?

On page 11 top left panel and page 12 bottom right, they look like the same shoes so I guess it's the co-worker.

@Lexan-Thanks for explaining that, I thought I missed that part because I skipped a few chapters of the manga.

[billborden]

[QUOTE=shinobiknight0;1314805]Still, it's like he's using her to replace Aki-san. He doesn't really seem to be a pedo, though. More like he's impatient of waiting for Rin to grow up.


I have to agree with you, the term is obsession. It doesn't seem that he is attracted to Rin because she is a child, but rather that he has blinded himself to Rin's independent nature, seeing her instead as a substitute for Aki (particularly obvious in ch 17, p17 and ch 19, p6). That being said, much of Reiji's behavior (buying her/allowing her to buy sexy clothing while not wanting her to wear them in public [ch24 p6 for a perfect example], his possessiveness and assumption of guilt in Aoki [throughout], even the language he uses to communicate with Rin [see Ch 29, pp 10-11]) throughout the manga fits well with-in the standard of "grooming", where an adult attempts to shape a child's personality to prepare them for an intimate relationship. To be honest, there really is no slack to cut him.

[mdauben]

Originally Posted by KaneDragon

Spoiler for c33:

I'm not used to seeing Rin look that vulnerable. Panicking when Reiji wanted to take a bath, jumping in shock when Aoki saw the marks, turning to Aoki in tears...

OMG!

Quite a supprising chapter, for just the reasons you say. Despite all her precocious ways, when Rin isn't the one "in charge" she definetly seems much shier and much more like her real age. Also, does anyone else think that Rin was sitting in Aoki's lap like that on purpose, so that he would notice? Sort of a silent plea for help from the only adult she trusts?

Anyway, things seem to be coming to a head already and now Aoki knows something wrong is going on, what can/will he do?

Dang! I wish this series came out more often than once a month.

A very good chapter.

QFT. One of the best.

[Lexan]

Originally Posted by Dark Wing

Also let try not to talk on the anime in the manga section. It's agents the rules you know.

Sorry for going off topic! I thought it was relevent b/c I compared manga version and the anime version... Anyways, I would be surprised if the mysterous stalker was shiro-chan, b/c I don't think she would go as far as to stalk the girls to check on them... But on the otherhand, if she's coworker, why would she stalk on them? There's no incentive!!! well, just a thought.

[Vexx]

It looks like the anime is going to deviate substantially enough that it is kind of pointless even comparing it here. Each will have to be judged as a stand-alone or "alternative" timeline -- its probably no contest that the manga will make the better *storyline*. But the purpose of anime is pretty much to advertise the existence of the merchandise (manga, CDs, figures, etc)... we're just lucky when the anime turns out to be something decent on its own

[Deathkillz]

HOLY MOTHER LOAD!
chapter 33

Spoiler:

Dear god...Reiji has become something hasn't he O.O
I know what kiss marks are but how can the "mark" stay on throughout the day...must be a pretty hard kiss >.>

I would like to defend the guy but sadly he is becoming more and more creepy...she loves rin as if she was aki so technically there isn't a "rin" anymore...just someone who will grow up to become aki in his eyes. Buying a wedding ring already? *shivers*

Still though rin has feelings for him aswell and shows her protective side...She's rather confused of her own feelings and choices. getting embarrassed about bathing with reiji shows her maturing...

The anime is going down a more obvious path...haven't seen the last ep yet but the feedback isn't positive >_<

[Ashlotte]

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

HOLY MOTHER LOAD!
chapter 33

Spoiler:

Dear god...Reiji has become something hasn't he O.O
I know what kiss marks are but how can the "mark" stay on throughout the day...must be a pretty hard kiss >.>

I would like to defend the guy but sadly he is becoming more and more creepy...she loves rin as if she was aki so technically there isn't a "rin" anymore...just someone who will grow up to become aki in his eyes. Buying a wedding ring already? *shivers*

Still though rin has feelings for him aswell and shows her protective side...She's rather confused of her own feelings and choices. getting embarrassed about bathing with reiji shows her maturing...

The anime is going down a more obvious path...haven't seen the last ep yet but the feedback isn't positive >_<

Eh you can put a dozy of one on some on in short time without even realizing it if your really into it...Which...Is kinda creepy seeing as who he managed to put them on is...

I just hope this isn't the signal that the story is pushing towards a conclusion...Normally I'm not big on things dragging but it'd be a real waste to not continue exploring the wonderful side characters in the series. *waves kuro and shiro flags*

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by Lexan

But on the otherhand, if she's coworker, why would she stalk on them? There's no incentive!!! well, just a thought.

I thought it would've been obvious to anyone but I'll explain again. The female co-worker was simply trying to figure out a way to get Reiji fall for her and she thought Rin was it so she followed her in order to get some info on them both. To bad it back fired...

[mdauben]

Originally Posted by Deathkillz

Spoiler:

I know what kiss marks are but how can the "mark" stay on throughout the day...must be a pretty hard kiss >.>

Spoiler for Reiji:

If he does it hard enough it will. Certainly there is no way Reiji could leave such marks by kissing in a manner that is in any way appropriate to a girl as young as Rin.

Spoiler:

getting embarrassed about bathing with reiji shows her maturing...

Spoiler for Rin:

I think it was more fear than maturity. Reiji is starting to scare and confuse her with his increasingly... agressive affection. I think that's why she seemed so subdued in this episode. She does not really understand what Reiji is thinking and does not know how to respond to the unwelcome physical advances of someone she had previously trusted and depended on.

[billborden]

Originally Posted by mdauben

OMG!

Quite a supprising chapter, for just the reasons you say. Despite all her precocious ways, when Rin isn't the one "in charge" she definetly seems much shier and much more like her real age. Also, does anyone else think that Rin was sitting in Aoki's lap like that on purpose, so that he would notice? Sort of a silent plea for help from the only adult she trusts?

.

I'm not even sure she planned for it to be silent; she was clearly trying to tell Aoki something before he saw the marks and flew off the handle. It may be that she really was trying to open up.

[jigenbakuda]

@billborden

Thanks for your thoughtful analysis of my post. I agree with what you said. But I will comment on one thing. The kuro over rin-chan part. The reason I said that is because its how I thought kuro-chan handled it. She has no hope with rin-chan. I think she knows that and mimi-chan knows that. I think that her liking shiro-chan is just enough diversion to make not being with rin-chan okay. When someone has a crush on someone, nothing will make that person stop liking them, even if the crushee hates the person and verbalizes that. So "technically" kuro-chan will never be over rin. But to have someone else come into her life that she can say, wow I like you. I think that is a big step in her getting over rin-chan. Not to say she doesn't still love her. I think if kuro-chan was to get married (to a lady of course, lol) and was 35 and randomly stumbled upon rin-chan, she would still love her. Because the strongest love is unfulfilled love. So I do not doubt that kuro still likes rin, I'm just saying shiro-chan is helping her to get over rin, because now she can think about more than just rin.

But anyways feel free to poke holes in my argument, lol. I was just trying to explain why I put the comment about kuro-chan being over rin-chan.

[billborden]

Originally Posted by jigenbakuda

But anyways feel free to poke holes in my argument, lol. I was just trying to explain why I put the comment about kuro-chan being over rin-chan.

What you said makes more sense now. I may still disagree, but I think thats more point-of-view than anything else. In the end, we just have to wait and see how things work out.

You do realize, I'm going to go nuts waiting on this cliff-hanger until Feb...Right?

I thought monthly was bad, but TWO months...

[jigenbakuda]

Originally Posted by billborden

What you said makes more sense now. I may still disagree, but I think thats more point-of-view than anything else. In the end, we just have to wait and see how things work out.

You do realize, I'm going to go nuts waiting on this cliff-hanger until Feb...Right?

I thought monthly was bad, but TWO months...

Are you serious?! 2 months!? I will cry to myself now. That's too long. Such an addictive manga. I have been spoiled by jump weekly...

Considering I started reading this manga after the "controversy" I have not really had to wait that much for chapters, but its getting tough now.

[Dark Wing]

Originally Posted by jigenbakuda

Are you serious?! 2 months!? I will cry to myself now. That's too long. Such an addictive manga. I have been spoiled by jump weekly...

Considering I started reading this manga after the "controversy" I have not really had to wait that much for chapters, but its getting tough now.

It usually comes out monthly but because new years is coming up all manga and anime are being pushed back. It's nothing really new guys in the mean time why not re-read a few of the chapters, who knows you may find something you missed before.

[Orrin]

There's also a short selfparody to be read in the meantime if anyone has missed it.

It just feels so wrong all of a sudden...