Gundam AGE Mecha, Weapons, and Technology

[Skye629]

Clanche, Age-2 mass-production type (from maknaedik's post in the gunpla thread).

It seems the Sigmasis technology has been standardized.[/QUOTE]

Those heads remind me of the Sniper VF Valkyries in Macross Frontier for some reason + they transform O-o

But for me thats a good thing cuz I love Macross and transforming suits in general

[LightningZERO]

I'm liking the new grunt suits

But they will get kicked around like nothing though.

I like the new Vagan dragon suit. Very super robot-ish, but very cool!

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Anyone else think ClaMche might be a typo?

[casval cehack]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

Anyone else think ClaMche might be a typo?

After Spallow, it's probably deliberate.

Yeah, Zeheart and the dragons will likely cut through these cool suits like the last battle.

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

I'm not gonna dismiss them just yet. Maybe the Federation finally got the ball rolling.

[SonicSP]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

Anyone else think ClaMche might be a typo?

Yes, because we have "Clanch" right there with something that's supposed to be the same thing but Custom. At this point, it's safe to assume that it's a typo unless we see more sources repeating the same thing. Magazine makes one letter print errors all the time really.

Spallow is different I guess, it was a name deliberately chosen and extended from a word.

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

I'm not gonna dismiss them just yet. Maybe the Federation finally got the ball rolling.

The problem isn't usually stats but rather presentation, they're usually going to veggie short hand of the stick somehow, even if they're stats are supposedly good.

Usually it goes Gundam>Bad Guys>Good Guys grunt. Anything below will get a power downgrade presentation wise.

[LightningZERO]

Seems to be a new wear for AGE-2 in side story? More BFG!

[gundamdrawer]

and i think it's back in original blue

[LoweGear]

Can't be avoided since it's Ebikawa, but those shoulder cannons on the AGE-2 MSV definitely remind me of the Gundam Sefer Rasiel's GN Bits. Kinda odd seeing the AGE-2's alternate wear as just MSV, but it's better than nothing.

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Finally, AGE MSV is starting.

The upper parts of those shoulder cannons remind me of the white MS at the Madorna Workshop.

[SonicSP]

I'm confused, I thought Unknown Soldiers was supposed to be the MSV one.

I'm worried about the AGE-2 MSV's coloring might suggest that it might be some unused concept, because AGE-2 Normal is supposed to be still all white years in the future. I can live with unused concepts in 00 but the AGE System and huge timeskips makes it far less forgivable here.

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

I gotta be honest, the armaments on Vagan MS is getting a tad bit ridiculous. This picture just did me in.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...65564GH534.jpg

Why oh why do the Dorados have those 3 barreled (NOT) missile launchers? It already has two beam vulcans, a beam rifle, and a chest cannon. Not to mention two beam sabers. It's seriously overkill, especially when fighting Adeles, or anything else for that matter. I could see the concept if (in that scene at least) they were missiles. Missiles are good to have, they can lock on, follow a target, and are generally pretty destructive. But....6 more beam vulcans? I don't get it.

Same thing goes with the Zeydra and its rifle creating a beam saber. What is the point of that? IT HAS A BEAM SABER IN ITS DAMN HAND. By turning on the rifles beam saber mode, you got one less accurate medium ranged weapon. Just use the solid sword, or the beam saber.

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[Patriot's Blade]

i've always tought that the Vagan MSes were more heavily armed than their federation counterparts from the start

[SonicSP]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

I gotta be honest, the armaments on Vagan MS is getting a tad bit ridiculous. This picture just did me in.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...65564GH534.jpg

Why oh why do the Dorados have those 3 barreled (NOT) missile launchers? It already has two beam vulcans, a beam rifle, and a chest cannon. Not to mention two beam sabers. It's seriously overkill, especially when fighting Adeles, or anything else for that matter. I could see the concept if (in that scene at least) they were missiles. Missiles are good to have, they can lock on, follow a target, and are generally pretty destructive. But....6 more beam vulcans? I don't get it.

Same thing goes with the Zeydra and its rifle creating a beam saber. What is the point of that? IT HAS A BEAM SABER IN ITS DAMN HAND. By turning on the rifles beam saber mode, you got one less accurate medium ranged weapon. Just use the solid sword, or the beam saber.

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For the rifle saber, it's so you can quickly use the beam saber on the same arm already holding the rifle without storing said rifle or throwing it away (especially if the pilots really prefers to only keep using say the right arm for both). Pretty much the same concept as the vulcans also having a beam saber mode.

Also keeps dual sword option open even as the rifle is used. Because the rifle has superior firepower than the vulcan, there's always a rationale for equipping it for the better ranged attack and the beam saber mode pretty much just makes it a stronger handheld Vagan vulcan. If the rifle doesn't have the saber mode, then the arm equipped with the rifle won't have quick easy access to a sword.

And while it hasn't been used, it also means that ifthe Zeydra chooses to have two of the rifles on each arm then it still would have access to dual saber options as well.

[Kuroi Hadou]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

I gotta be honest, the armaments on Vagan MS is getting a tad bit ridiculous. This picture just did me in.

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...65564GH534.jpg

Why oh why do the Dorados have those 3 barreled (NOT) missile launchers? It already has two beam vulcans, a beam rifle, and a chest cannon. Not to mention two beam sabers. It's seriously overkill, especially when fighting Adeles, or anything else for that matter. I could see the concept if (in that scene at least) they were missiles. Missiles are good to have, they can lock on, follow a target, and are generally pretty destructive. But....6 more beam vulcans? I don't get it.

Same thing goes with the Zeydra and its rifle creating a beam saber. What is the point of that? IT HAS A BEAM SABER IN ITS DAMN HAND. By turning on the rifles beam saber mode, you got one less accurate medium ranged weapon. Just use the solid sword, or the beam saber.

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... I... I can't believe it... you, of all people, are arguing utility and function over form? I think I just saw a pig fly by my window

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Sometimes the a line has to be drawn dear Kuroi. I'm fine with all Vagan MS being basically walking attack fortresses with all their weapons. Makes for a strong enemy.

But when you give a rifle a beam saber mode, when the MS using it already has two spare melee options, or give a MS 6 more beam vulcans, when they already have enough, it's time to stop.

[Kuroi Hadou]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

But when you give a rifle a beam saber mode, when the MS using it already has two spare melee options, or give a MS 6 more beam vulcans, when they already have enough, it's time to stop.

So you would have been fine with the six beam vulcans had the ones on the hands been removed?

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Originally Posted by Kuroi Hadou

So you would have been fine with the six beam vulcans had the ones on the hands been removed?

No, one is enough. If one of the wrist weapons where the beam vulcans, and the other missiles, that would be better. It would be more practical as well. Limit the movement of the enemy with a barrage of gun fire, then launch the missiles.

[Kuroi Hadou]

Originally Posted by GN0010 Nosferatu

No, one is enough. If one of the wrist weapons where the beam vulcans, and the other missiles, that would be better. It would be more practical as well. Limit the movement of the enemy with a barrage of gun fire, then launch the missiles.

You just want the Vagan to have missiles. I'm suddenly reminded of S2 and the movie in 00. By that point, traditional weapons had become pretty much obsolete. Barring a particular instance near the end of S2, of course. Granted, CB spammed them by the ship-load, but the A-Laws and Innovators... kinda didn't.

[GN0010 Nosferatu]

Missiles are never obsolete.

Never.